Handing over site files to client: absolutely necessary?

I recently had a client ask me for the "access code" to his site; I told him such a thing didn't exist and if he wanted to update his own site he could purchase a CMS. While Contribute is another option, it is money detoured from me to Adobe, notwithstanding repairing broken sites. My question is, since web design is a service, not a product, is it absolutely necessary to hand over the site files to the client? I don't think a client can access a site using an open source FTP client such as Filezilla without 777 permissions, and I refuse to give these for security reasons.... Does anyone stipulate this in the web development contract or is it merely understood?...

Unless otherwise stipulated, I consider my client to be the owner of the finished files for the web site.
But I suspect this may be a hosting issue. There are a lot of commercials on the radio advertising hosting for only $4.50. When I hear these radio spots, I think, "I wonder if my clients are going to get any ideas." The ones I have heard came from GoDaddy. There's no question in my mind that if one of my server-illiterate clients every tried to do their own hosting with GoDaddy, it would turn out to be a nightmare for them.
Recently, I received an email from a client that told me that she got a really good offer for hosting. I told her that her hosting with me included basic maintenance and this:
"... you are saving money if you host it yourself as long as you have the proper software to upload your files and then you might need other software to make any changes to your web site or pay a web design company to do it. You also need to know a little about web servers. I suspect the hosting that you are being offered is by a hosting company that is just renting you space on a server but not actually doing any work for you—you will have to do everything yourself. So, it’s really not the same web hosting that we do, but if you want to switch over, I will send you the FTP information when you are ready so you can download your files from my server."
She ended up sticking with me.

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>I am working on a site for a lawyer who is a veritable
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>was
> wondering if I should actually hand over the DW site
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.oO(Mark A. Boyd)
>Carlton Chin posted in macromedia.dreamweaver.appdev:
>
>> I'm trying to locate a decent script that would
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sit files.
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>
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