HD 4:3 without letterbox

I have a canon hv20 camcorder that only records HD video in 16:9.I was wondering if there was any way I could convert those 16:9 files to 4:3 without letterbox and without warping the image,in other words to zoom in to the center thus eliminating the black bars and also some of the image to the right and left.I have Imovie version 5.0.2.I noticed that there was a pan and scan Imovie plugin by Virtix but they don't seem to be selling it anymore.I also tried a plugin called Simple Zoom but that didn't work for some reason.Any help here would be greatly appreciated,thanks.

Welcome to the forums.
If you're wanted to crop your video, take a look at MPEG Streamclip. It's not the main purpose for the software, but I've noticed the capability for cropping.
John

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AHA! That would be your problem. The actual clip is 1440x1080, but you were using a 720x480 DV-NTSC sequence. When HD media is placed in a SD sequence, it is scaled down and letterboxes are added.
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I would be very grateful if someone could help me with my query. I have a camcorder with both regular and widescreen recording function.
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>either a MPEG or WMV with a frame size of 640X360...
If the height has to be 360 your only option is WMV. For MPEG you can make it either 352 or 368 (divisible by 16).

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I have seen similar questions throughout the discussions, but none of the answers seem to be working...
I am trying to export a quicktime file (H.264 compression) that was shot in 16:9 with an XL2 and I cannot get rid of the letterbox. I have adjusted the "Size..." setting (as the user manual suggests) a bunch of times (720X405, etc...) and still keep getting the letterbox when I view the exported file.
Basically I would like the export to look like the widescreen trailers that you seen on the web (like on apple's trailer site).
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Thank you for youre response.
Does exporting with a letterbox and then cropping later degrade the quality? The only solution I have come up with is to remove the distort attribute under remove attributes for each clip, and then scaling it correctly under the video track of the quicktime export... it just seems like there should be an easier solution. And I am not sure if this method degrades the quality more than it should...

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Yay! After an hour and a half with Apple tech support I now know what to do... so I thought I'd right this out for anyone else who struggles with the issue.
1. Go into the Livetype you made your GFX on or create a new one...
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Brian... make sure you tell us if you indeed are using DVDSp...
You set your TV to 4:3 letterbox, yes? -- this would fix it for YOUR tv... but not the issue at hand.
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Hi P,
I would:
finish whole project WITHOUT letterboxing
export to tape
reimport (now, just one big clip)
add effect
go for a walk, in the next bar, spend some days off Waikiki Beach et al.
besides:
if you want some more "film look" have a look at JES Deinterlacer that adds to the final project a deinterlacing, which looks grrrreat in combo with widescreen.

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Hi folks I have searched around quite a bit but I need more specific advice based my situation...I am editing a docu about Japanese biker gangs shot on several different SD cameras:
MY FOOTAGE
1.Sony Vx-2000 fitted with a Century Optics 16:9 converter lens bayonet mounted
2.Canon Xl2 shot in 16:9 mode
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ARCHIVAL/ACQUIRED FOOTAGE
1. Contributor's camera SD 4:3 aspect ratio
2.Contributor's camera SD 16:9 aspect ratio
3. Transferred from VHS into SD 4:3 aspect ratio
I would like to standardize the aspect ratio for the project but I am getting confused as sometimes the footage shot on the sony (which should be true 16:9) appears elongated vertically at times.
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Sorry to butt in, haven't read the entire thread.
Suggest you plan from the beginning to create one timeline but encode for two separate output formats.
Standard procedure for bringing multiple formats is to convert them to a single format as they are ingested. Decide early what the timeline format will be and transcode everything to that codec before anything is brought into the timeline.
When your project goesgolden, export a single self-contained movie and take that to Compressor to create release movies that will be played on Blu-ray, SD DVD, online, or in Power Point, whatever you need.
bogiesan
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16:9 display problems

Having shot a project in 16:9SD and edited it as a 16:9 anamorphic project in Final Cut Pro 5 I prepared a widescreen iDVD project for burning. I also added a previously made 4:3 project to the dvd project. The burned disc displays the menus without letterboxing on 4:3 TV's, regardless of how I set the DVD player's menu for playback (4:3, 4:3 pan-scan, or 16:9). The projects are displayed full screen 4:3. The 16:9 project is horizontally compressed.
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http://capital2.capital.edu/admin-staff/dalthoff/widescreen.html
If you're using iDVD6 it changed a bit, best summarized here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2065249
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When the screen is bordered in black, is that 4:3 video?

Hello
When the screen is bordered in black, is that 4:3 video?
Please help
Peter

Hi Damien13,
Thanks for your question. The article below explains what happens when you change the aspect ratio of your project in iMovie:
iMovie '11: Change the aspect ratio for your project
http://support.apple.com/kb/ph2176
When you change a project’s aspect ratio, iMovie may zoom in or crop the footage a bit so that the video fills the screen without letterboxing (adding black bands to the top and bottom of the video) or pillarboxing (adding black bands to the sides of the video).
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Click to select a project in the Project Library, or open a project so that it’s showing in the Project browser, and then choose File > Project Properties.
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