HD spin down time

In macos9 it was possible to change the amount of time before the HD spins down, but in 10.4 there is only the option to spin down when possible. Even though I can change this setting with pmset in terminal, is there a reason why I should leave it alone? Usually when apple sets something, it is for a good reason.

I believe the factory set time is ~10 minutes but everything suggests this is an arbitrary figure.
I can see no harm in adjusting the time, as long as it's a reasonable adjustment - i.e. setting it too low would cause unnecessary wear and tear on the drive as it spins up and down constantly as you're using it. Set it too high and the drive will be spinning when it doesn't need to, consuming your battery. If you're plugged into the mains, and waiting for the drive to spinup after idling for a few minutes is annoying then certainly extending the time would be a good solution.
Repeated spin-up and spin-down of the drive is presumably worse for it's health than it spinning constantly or not at all, although I'm sure you'll find arguments for and against this.
If you don't want to change the setting in terminal, I think Cocktail lets you adjust this.
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    Message was edited by: Cheule

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