HDD and SSD partition Question

Can I back up a HDD and a SSD using the same external hard drive by partitioning the drive? I have a 128 GB SSD and a 500 TB HDD
and want to back up both using a 1 TB external hard drive.

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astoldbywesley wrote:
Is a 128GB Solid State Drive better than a 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm or 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm?
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Sharing the /home partition and general partition questions

Hello, I'm new to Arch, but have been using Linux for a few years (albeit still at a beginner level). I'm going to be reinstalling Arch on an old computer that has a 40GB main drive so dual boot a "operational" OS for day to day stuff that I want to make sure will be running well and then another OS that I can test on or just have for trying new distros. I also have an 80GB that I'll use for data (but I don't think I want that to be my home drive).
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Also, I'm planning on splitting the 40GB drive the following partitions. Do these make sense, or would there be a better way to do this?
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╔═[16:10]═[inxs @ arch]
╚═══===═══[~]>> df
Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda3 ext3 7.0G 1.7G 5.0G 25% /
none tmpfs 125M 100K 125M 1% /dev
none tmpfs 125M 0 125M 0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda4 ext4 16G 850M 14G 6% /home
/dev/sda6 reiserfs 5.1G 558M 4.5G 11% /var
/dev/sda1 ext2 61M 12M 47M 20% /boot
╔═[21:16]═[inxs @ arch]
╚═══===═══[~]>> fdisk
Disk /dev/sda: 30.0 GB, 30005821440 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3648 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000080
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 8 64228+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 9 726 5767335 5 Extended
/dev/sda3 727 1640 7341705 83 Linux
/dev/sda4 1641 3648 16129260 83 Linux
/dev/sda5 9 73 522081 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda6 74 726 5245191 83 Linux
╔═[21:18]═[inxs @ arch]
╚═══===═══[~]>>
Since you have 10GB more than I do, you can adjust accordingly and make partitions for your test OSes as well.
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HDD and SSD trouble

Hi!
A couple of days ago I left my Macbook Pro 13 inch Mid 2012 at my desk for a couple of minutes. When I returned it showed a grey screen with a folder icon and a question mark within this icon. I remember not putting it down smoothly but more or less dropping it on my desk. Restarts did not work and after searching the web for the meaning of the error icon, I figured that my hard drive must have failed.
I also have an external hard disk which I use for storage of some video files/projects. I took this hard disk out of the casing and also removed the internal hard disk from my Macbook. I placed the external hard disk in my Macbook, and I placed my former internal hard disk in the casing of my external hard disk drive. I then restarted my Macbook holding down the Alt-key. I was again able to boot OS X through the USB connected hard disk. In finder, my former external hard disk, now connected internally, also showed up. All files were accessible and it showed no sign of faulty internal connection.
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SSD
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External Hard Drive
Samsung SSD SATA to USB
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✓ but not bootable
✓
External Hard Drive SATA to USB
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✓
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✓
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I've read things about Trim Enabler and for some reason I used this utility and its currently set on 'on'. I don't know if this is important but I guess the more information the better.
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2. The SSD firmware won't detect the USB connected SSD. How can this be possible? I will also contact Samsung for this issue.
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I have a Thinkpad with both a hard disk drive and a solid state drive.
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If you have any warranty left-doing what you plan voids it.
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Good afternoon Apple Community,
Once again i require your kind assistance. I have recently installed a Samsung SSD drive (Model 850Pro, 256GB) on my primary bay and moved the HDD to the Optical bay. I then cloned the HDD contents to the SSD and chose the later to be used as the bootable disk, thus taking advantage of the quicker access.
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Does my notebook support SATA3 ?
Actually i am not a custumer i just want to buy your notebooks and before that i will see two things
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How to delete the hdd and re-partition during the installation.

Hi,
I am new to Arch, currently I have a laptop that installed with Opensuse os, now I want to switch it to Arch entirely.
So, I need to delete the whole partitions that previously created when install Openesuse. I just want to install single Arch on the machine only.
How can I do it?
Thanks

Yea you can set up your scheme all with gparted. Keep in mind though, that is just formatting your disk correctly, no files will be installed, just the disk setup for arch to install to.
So when you get into gparted what your goal is going to be is to set up your disk for install. I used the scheme of
3 partitions,
one for root 20GB - /
one for swap 2GB
and one for home 80GB- /home
This is a pretty common config and I think it is best but it depends on your situation and what you want, thats pretty standard though.
So that's what you'll have set up when you leave gparted live cd and then boot to your arch cd, all your partitions set up and ready for arch to install its files to.
Also, arch wiki is really killer wiki, I mean the guys did an awesome job on the beginners guide, but there's nothing wrong with having extra reference guides. I used this one with the arch wiki:
http://lifehacker.com/5680453/build-a-k … he-process
I would take a look at them both.
And i would have them both open when your doing this whole thing, so hopefully you have a tablet or a cell phone to have these pages open while you install.
And like pks said, you don't have to use gparted live cd, its just recommended in the beginners guide. I did use it, and i thought it made it a lot easier. But if you are familiar with command line disk editing, go for it!
EDIT: PS man i dont know about you but i always like to have extra partitions on my disk so I can test other linux distrobutions. It kinda sounds like you are testing them, you have centos and now arch, are you sure your not going to want to install more later? Cause if you maybe want to and you have a big enough hard drive your not pressed for space you might want to create your arch install partitions and have an extra couple for another distro in the future.
Like me I installed arch, and now im installing Gentoo to try it out, i made extra partitions beforehand.
So I made my arch ones:
sda1 - /
sda2 - swap
sda3 /home
then for Gentoo
sda4 - /
sda5 /home
and they would be sharing swap partition. So i had all these partitions set up before I installed anything to the disk. Just an idea Good luck!
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X100e Ram and ssd hd question

Hello i have bought a new single core x100 and have installed an extra 2 gigs of ram on top of the 2gigs i got with it totalling 4gb but however in windows it can only use 2.75Gbs of it, can anyone tell me why this is? thanks!
also id like to know weather i can just rip out the 250 hhd that in here and put in a 64 ssd hd will i see much performance boost or is it really not worth doing ?!
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You're using a 32-bit OS. Install Windows 7 64-bit if you want it to recognize all four gigs.
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Hi, my computer is a mid-2012 Mac Pro 12 Core
It's a great computer but I'm considering upgrading my main boot drive (WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD) to a 1tB Samsung EVO 840 SSD drive (I'm using a sonnet tempo PCI card to mount an SSD that holds audio at the moment and will add another SSD for the boot drive I'm referring to) so I just had a question - if I clone the HDD to the new SSD, what happens with things like licenses for my audio plugins, such as Native Instruments Komplete, programs by IKMultemedia. programs that use an ILOK such as Steven Slate Plugins and also, WAVES plugins? Will this info all carry across to the new SSD drive or do you think I'll need to reauthorise some things? I have all the serials etc so this shouldn't be an issue, but just wondered.
Any help would be appreciated as it feels like quite a big step in that it's my main system drive!
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CCC is excellent. If it doesn't work then sure, just always have a safety net of your system that is untouched.
Also, after a clean install, CLONE it!
And then use Setup Assistant. Migration Assistant.
Clone of the system can go on sparse disk images too so you don't have to partition (should have at least one though) and you can have clone from different stages and versions: 10.9.4, without Setup Assistant, migrated, full loaded with all your apps. Multiple versions.
CCC is designed to make a working bootable copy of a system so you can move the system to another boot device like hdd and SSDs without the worry.
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