HDD anomaly G4 Dual 800

Just picked up a used G4 Dual 800 G4, with OSX 10.5.8.
The system drive is a Seagate ST33020620A that has a label that states capacity as 320gb.
Yet the disk utility states that the drive has a capacity of 128gb. The info panel says "148GB" with 134+GB available.
Any clues on how to make the full drive available/visible?
Thanks from a person not experienced with Apple innards.

Hello SBPG,
And Welcome to the Apple Forum!
I think you have found the last G4 that doesn't see the larger hard drives. My solution (starting years ago with the beige G3s and continuing up to the last dual 800MHz 2001 Quicksilver I configured for sale) has been to fit an ATA 100/133 controller card that sees up to four of the larger hard drives. The AEC6280M ACARD is an excellent card, usually available through eBay for around $50. There are variants such as the 6880 and 6885 which permit RAID configurations, but work well as simple controller cards and are occasionally cheaper. There are SIIG rebranded ACARD cards which work equally well, but be sure you get the dark green ACARD ones; SIIG has also supplied an ochre-coloured card (under the same parts number) which eats drive directories and is to be avoided. Also Sonnet supplies an Ultra-Tek card; I have used a couple of them in the past and they work well, even though my Apple Profiler didn't identify one of them.
There is also a software workaround with some limitations with which I am not familiar.
Regards and good luck!
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