HDD Led with SATA HDD

When I use SATA HDD the HDD LED doesn't work. It works OK with ATA HDD. Where is a problem?

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Originally posted by Domino254
My LED work on S-ATA too. Dunno why it wouldn't work in yours.
My mainboard is first revision (got it for the first shipment almost 9 months ago).
You got your board 5 months before it was released???

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Windows will not let you change the drive letter where the "Windows" folder is. This is because critical files are linked to the registry when you install programs in the Program Files folder after a normal install.
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d) I also repeated the procedure using the original 80 GB HDD and still no joy
e) I get an error message that begins with the following:
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In my opinion upgrade with normal SATA HDD should not be problem. It must not be SATA II because it will not work faster.
I cannot say for sure but there must be some compatibility problem.
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SATA HDD Errors

Motherboard: K8MM3-V / MS-7181 V2.0 AMD Socket 754
SATA Controller: Via VT8237R PLUS
BIOS Version: W7181VMS V3.0 012006
Are there any known problems with SATA HDDs giving occasional errors with this motherboard/SATA controller, or with any other MSI motherboards?
Have there been any BIOS updates concerned with the type of problem described below?
(Note. The problems of VT8237R support for SATA 3.0Gb/s (‘SATA II’) are well documented. To rule out the higher speed capability as a cause my SATA drives are configured to 1.5Gb/s – see below.)
Problem Description
I have four of these MSI motherboards. Recently one system running Windows XP suffered a file system corruption in an NTFS partition on a Samsung SATA HDD. I am investigating why this happened.
My tests
Test 1
A Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB SATA drive fails the standalone Samsung ESTOOL surface diagnostic with Service Code AJ36 ‘Bad Sector’. (Note. This drive has been set to SATA 1.5Gb/s using ESTOOL on another non-MSI motherboard with SATA 3.0Gb/s support).
However, this drive does pass the full surface ESTOOL diagnostic test when:
- Using an IDE to SATA adapter with the drive on the K8MM3-V
or
- Running ESTOOL on the drive using another type of motherboard (ASRock)
Test 2
Under Windows XP occasional disk errors, which are logged in the System Event Log, can be provoked by intensive HDD read/writes. My test case has three partitions with Acronis True Image backing up one partition to a backup file on another partition, and a chkdsk process running on a third partition.
The logged errors are:
Event Source: Disk
Type: Error
Event Id: 11
Description: The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk0\D
Note. This test fails on two different systems using K8MM3-V motherboards.
Test 3
The same disk errors reported in Test 2 occur using a Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB SATA 3.0Gb/s drive instead of the Samsung. (This drive was jumpered to SATA 1.5Gb/s).
My conclusions
- The Samsung HDD is not faulty
- The problem is not confined to a single K8MM3-V motherboard
- This problem has caused a serious loss of HDD data integrity
Comment or advice is welcomed.

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I pointed out that my problem report clearly states that the Samsung Spinpoint and Western Digital Caviar SATA HDDs I am using for the tests are configured to 1.5Gb/s. There has been no further reply from MSI to date.
A further test (see below) has revealed no problem using a PCI SATA controller instead of the onboard SATA controller.
In my opinion errors reported by the Samsung ESTOOL diagnostic and the occasional Windows XP disk controller errors (Event Id 11) are symptomatic of either a ‘glitch’ in the motherboard’s hardware interface to the Via controller chip or a BIOS firmware error.
Because this motherboard is obsolete, MSI may be reluctant to investigate. However, the company should be concerned that the same design may have been carried over to subsequent motherboards and similarily has not been picked up in design review or product validation testing.
My experience certainly deters me from using MSI motherboards in future.
Test 4
Tests have been repeated using the Samsung HD103SJ HDD with an unbranded Silicon Image 3114 4-port PCI SATA RAID Controller which supports SATA 1.5Gb/s.
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I bought a 200Gb SATA hard disk (Maxtor 6V200E0). This is the first time I work with SATA HDDs.
I plugged the HDD as I always did with an IDE HDD, and installed Windows XP -I have configured nothing-. The problem I'm experiencing is that sometimes Windows XP boots fine, and sometimes it doesn't. After the POST, the Windows Logo does never appear. I do not see anything.
Reading the Manual, I believe to understand that no matter if you only have one SATA HDD, I should setup nVRAID in the BIOS. Is that correct?. If I configure the nVRAID in the BIOS and setup RAID 0, should this problem disappear?. How should I setup my SATA HDD?. Is it the same to connect it to SATA1/SATA2/SATA3/SATA4 controller?. Or should it be connected into SATA1 -just because there's only 1 HDD in the system-?.
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I have heard or read that Maxtor drives are incompatible with nForce3 or nForce4 chipsets, or that I need a firmware update to make a Maxtor drive compatible with the nForce chipset. Is this true?
Answer
Note: This solution is only to be applied to the listed products and only when used with the nVidia© nForce3© or nForce4© chipsets. If you are unsure as to which chipset you have, please contact your motherboard manufacturer or visit your motherboard manufacturer's website for clarification.
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Applying firmware to a drive that is not authorized by Maxtor will void the warranty on the drive as this would be considered an unauthorized modification. Please see Maxtor's Limited Warranty Statement for more information.
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Data Corruption: If you are experiencing data corruption issues, the problem is not with the hard drive firmware. Please visit nVidia's website to update to the latest nVidia chipset drivers to resolve this issue. Make sure to be familiar with your motherboard specifications as there are several variations.
NCQ: If you are experiencing problems with NCQ (Native Command Queueing) please see nVidia's Knowledgebase ID 768 for more information with an issue nVidia is having with NCQ and the nForce4 chipset, and a forthcoming resolution. They also offer a solution to temporarily disable NCQ.
No Detection: If you are experiencing a problem with your Maxtor SATA-II drive not being detected by your nForce3 or nForce4 host controllers at bootup:
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Model begins with:
Code (Firmware revision)
6B- or 7B-
BANC1980
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BANC1E00
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VA131610
VA141610
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Image
To check your current firmware revision on the drive without removing it from the system, use the Powermax diagnostic CD. Drive model, Serial and firmware Revision is displayed in the upper right hand corner after selecting the drive to test.
A firmware update to resolve this issue for Maxtor SATA II drives is available by contacting Maxtor Support. Please have the drive serial number and the Code number available, which will be listed on the top label of the drive itself.
Firmware updates will be issued for those drives experiencing this problem only, not for experimental troubleshooting. Due to the nature of a firmware code update, a drive can be potentially rendered inoperable so it is critical that data is backed up first.

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Hi guys,
Probably a really stupid question, but here goes
My machine has 1 ide HDD and 1 SATA HDD.
The SATA drive is set up as raid0 and is purely used as a data disk. The OS(win xp pro sp1) is on the IDE drive
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This is a known issue on some SATA boards, the drive LED seems to work for some - and not for others. BTW, this is not an MSI only issue. AFAIK, there is no fix for it - unless of course somebody knows better???
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insego please use the SEARCH BUTTON
I did use the search function to find other people with similar problems. The reason I started a topic of my own was because of the text you get while joining:
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Do not hijack another persons topic. If you have a similar problem, start your own thread anyway.
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Well I couldn't resist. I opened up case and took my trusty magnifying glass and looked real close at JFP1 pins 1,3.
Above the pins on mobo is silk screened ' -HDD+ ' . (the - is above pin 3 and the + is above pin 1. Pin 1 is decribed in manual as 'Hard disk LED pull-up' and pin 3 is 'Hard disk active LED'. I had connected the Antec HDD LED plug so that the red wire was on pin 3 and the black was on pin 1 (so you could read the 'HDD' on the plug).
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Gave me an opportunity for a little cable management too.

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