HDV 24p capturing

I purchased a Sony HDR FX1000 HDV camcorder. I recently shot a movie in 1080i 24p and had all kinds of trouble with the footage looking right. I have completed the project and trough a series of tricks and tweaks was able to make the footage look okay. It doesn't, however, look great.
I was wondering if anyone knows how to capture HDV 1080i 24p footage in FCP? What settings do I need to use if I am capturing via firewire and what settings would I use in Compressor in order to burn the movie onto an SD DVD?
Like I said, the other project is complete and I'm not going back to it, but I was just curious as to what to do right next time so I don't have these problems. Thanks.

No such thing as 1080i 24p. With that camera you most likely shot at 1080 24p. Signals scanned at 24p/30p are converted to 60i (using 2-3 pull-down for 24p) and recorded on MiniDV tape, allowing footage to be played and edited using existing HDV products. In this way, progressive images can be handled in the conventional HDV editing environment. I capture all my HDV footage as ProRes 422. See Andrew Balis's article on Ken Stone's website: http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/capture_hdv_prores_fwbalis.html
In FCP export a Quicktime movie. Use that movie in Compressor to make your SD video. Start with "DVD: best quality, 90 minutes".
--Bob

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Final Cut Express doesn't support HDV natively. It uses Apple Intermediate Codec upon capturing process to convert the HDV format.
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Digital audio for video is 48 kHz, 16 Bit.
There are other settings, but let's not complicate the issue -this setting is correct for you.
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Did you transcode the HDV to Apple Intermediate or ProRes codec?
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Ok, I spoke to soon. I kept searching and searching. Finally found this..
http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=12131
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"b) As many have said you need to be sure that the camera is set ot output in HDV, and not DV locked. Because I am a bit of a dunce I found it difficult to locate that, even with the manual so here are some foolproof instructions on how to get there:
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HDV 24p

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Is there a question in there?
If Premiere Pro 2.0 works fine for 24P HDV, that's great -- use it.
Try it with DVCProHD 24p and doesn't work without additional programs.
FCP works just fine. So it goes both ways, and that's to be expected.

HDV 24f captured as true 24 fps....why?

SO...I have the XH A1 which, from what the manual says....can only output as true 24f in standard definition, but in HDV, it will always be 60i. Well somehow in FCP 6 when I look at the information on the clips I captured with the easy setup as 1080i60....they say 1080p24....how is that?

Does the frame rate say 23.98? Because unless it says that, you are NOT true 24fps. IN fact, 23.98 IS NOT true 24fps...only 24.0 is true 24fps, and only film and high end formats of HD (HDCAM SR) run at that speed. But I'll wager that you are 1080p24 at 29.97fps. It says 1080p24 because you are running 24p footage...Canon's 24p called '24f,' but still, film looked footage running at 29.97.
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Dual G4 Mac OS X (10.3.7) FYI we are getting new G5 for this project

http://www.studiodaily.com/main/news/prc/6436.html ...quote from this link...
Rob Schoeben, Apple's vice president of Applications Product Marketing. "The JVC GY-HD100U works seamlessly with Final Cut Studio today and future 24p support will give independent filmmakers an even more flexible HD workflow"
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http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=2307338#2307338
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=2307338#2307338
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thus avoiding the GOP timeline and long renders.
some suggest the image quality is quite a bit better too.
plus you get a HDMI output for a monitor which seems a big plus for the low cost.
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