HDV 720p30 codec(?)

I am using snapz pro x to capture machinima at 720p but the machine I am using to capture does not have Final Cut Pro on it and (hence?) does not have the Apple HDV 720p30 codec as an option to save. Where can I locate this for download, or on my machine so that I can keep all my source in the same format?
james

It isn't available outside of FCP. You will have to save as another format then convert later.
Shane

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Thanks Colin-
Thanks. I do understand the additional level of compression. Even though the sequences are only a few minutes each, I don't think it's worth dealing with the huge file sizes, etc. I was just looking for the 'ideal' way to backup the master sequence - something the most equivalent to providing 'an edited master' via HDV tape.
I suppose I could have used an intermediary codec like Cineform, but it's really not worth it. What would be a good alternate (or less compressed) alternative?

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Hi(Bonjour)!
It's a matter of choice and workflow.
See this link for documentation about FCP and High Definition formats:
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/FCP6HD_and_BroadcastFormats.pdf
Apple intermediate codec "write" all images on a 29.97 frame rate basic as HDV is a MPEG2 format based on a long GOP (group of picture) of 0.5 second.
For this reason, AIC tends to take 5 to 6 time the space of native HDV.
But you works with all images needed to editing.
HDV native push on computer processors as all intermediate frames must be calculated to a complete one on viewing.
The conversion from HDV to DV occurs directly on your camcorder, and so, you have to choose DV-NTSC if you want a SD material.
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HDV 720p60 VS HDV 720p30??

This one should be easy but I have forgotten what all of those numbers mean. I noticed that when I try to use media manager to recompress a project using HDV 720p60 the project size ends up being half the size of the project if I were to use HDV 720p30. I always thought that these two aren't that different from each other after all. Can someone please explain why such difference between the two file sizes?
I would really appreciate it. Thanks!

I can setup for 720p30, Are you sure this isn't right for you. Are you sure you shoot 60 frames of HDV. Please give more details including versions of OS,FC, QT and computer, and camera/decks involved.
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x

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I am in the middle of editing a project on FCP 5 and need to export part of it to a PC.
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I'm having trouble finding the Quicktime codec to allow the footage to be palyed back on the PC, can anyone tell me where to find this???
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I edit footage mostly from a Sony Z7 camera, shot in HD 25p onto Compact Flash cards. The FCP (sony) plugin imports this footage via "log and transfer" and turns it into AppleHDV and I use that codec for my timeline. My finished edits are exported as self-contained AppleHDV, ready to be transformed into whatever format is required.
I've been told the Apple HDV codec is an unusual codec (by Sorenson as it happens). I will go to Prores if I'm using other formats or doing color correction of any significance. In fact I prefer Prores in most ways but I cannot transcode to Prores via "log and transfer" so I tend to stick with Apple HDV as a matter of course.
Am I unusual in working this way?
Anyone else working with this codec - surely I'm not alone?
(for the record, it turns out in Sorenson Squeeze 7 there is a bug that makes horrid results when transcoding HDV to anything H.264 - I think thats worth taking note of!)
I'm just wondering if I'm weird

This is true, but it takes a heck of a lot longer to transcode all your footage to prores than to edit straight into HDV. I'm using a pretty speedy mac and I can't say the timeline renders have been any trouble.
I would consider ProRes if I could transcode during "log and transfer" but it seems there is no way to do this without transfering all clips to HDV first.
I could also just work with a ProRes timeline - but then I'm not sure how this would work much differently to exporting my master movie as ProRes from an HDV timeline (apart from every clip would be screaming for a render all the time during the edit.).
My thinking seems to tally with Ken Stone - that if your outputting to web/dvd formats and not doing much color correction or graphics you might as well as stay in HDV.
The problem with this idea is highlighted when you discover that the pricey compression software you bought to take care of all your compression needs wont transcode HDV to h.264 without making a right old mess of the picture - due to a bug involving this "unusual HDV codec".

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Haha... thanks guys. While I appreciate these answers maybe I should've quoted all the things I've read already.
Yes, I am missing the codec.
It's only available for FCP users. I have Final Cut Express.
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I wouldn't change applications against a deadline.
Slow motion is not an easy effect to do in post unless you shot more frames per second than you needed for standard speed. Making 30 frames a second into 60 frames requires each frame to be printed twice. What were your expectations or what have your tried before?
Especially with HDV, which starts out so heavily compressed, by the time it gets slomo'd and transcoded back to MPEG2 again, yeah, I imagine it's gonna look pretty bad. You can obtain some expensive software to do the optical flow pixel interpretation without buying FCS2 but that's up to your client's needs for smooth slow motion. Rendering optical flow, we've heard, takes for freakin' ever, even on the best machines.
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Greetings everyone,
Just want to add my two cents and testify that this is a real problem regardless of what JVC or Apple want to disavow. My comrade and I shoot with two JVC GY-HD100U's with the HDV 720p30 codec. We purchased the Firestore DR-HD100's (God bless their soul - I don't care what all the reviewers say about this product - they need a visit from the iPod development team) with the cameras and use those for majority of jobs. No problems with TC breaks. However take that backup tape that was simultaneously recording with the Firestore and perform long captures from tape, we encounter stream breaks. Both cameras have had this problem out of the box. We don't have a dedicated deck since we figured most work will come off the Firestores so when we capture from tape its from the camera. However the Firestores are limited by battery life and for long continuous shoots we fall back on tape. Hence the frustration of TC breaks. Could someone from JVC or Apple take some initiative and find the flaw? Thanks.
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I've shot two interviews with a white background, with the intent to make it very white.
Shot with a Sony Z1U, I specifically lit the background and adjusted the iris so that it read 100% IRE via the zebras. I backed off the aperature by no more than 1/2 stop to just remove zebras from the white background, and then lit my subject based on the background exposure (e.g., I adjusted their lights, not the aperature).
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My 23" Apple Monitor is calibrated using the Pro version of ColorVision calibration software, and yet, everything looks very warm on my LCD screen as well. Okay, perhaps there's going to be a slight shift in color due to differences in monitors (which is much more than I think it ought to be), BUT, the scope says 80%. So, something somewhere is going on (wrong), and if you have any idea how to help me figure it out, I would be quite thankful.
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Greetings everyone,
Just want to add my two cents and testify that this is a real problem regardless of what JVC or Apple want to disavow. My comrade and I shoot with two JVC GY-HD100U's with the HDV 720p30 codec. We purchased the Firestore DR-HD100's (God bless their soul - I don't care what all the reviewers say about this product - they need a visit from the iPod development team) with the cameras and use those for majority of jobs. No problems with TC breaks. However take that backup tape that was simultaneously recording with the Firestore and perform long captures from tape, we encounter stream breaks. Both cameras have had this problem out of the box. We don't have a dedicated deck since we figured most work will come off the Firestores so when we capture from tape its from the camera. However the Firestores are limited by battery life and for long continuous shoots we fall back on tape. Hence the frustration of TC breaks. Could someone from JVC or Apple take some initiative and find the flaw? Thanks.
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Create a DVCPro HD timeline, then drop HDV onto it. You will need to render the timeline with the HDV footage to play it smoothly, but it will save you rendering all your footage, even if you are not going to use it.
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I read a little about this JVC camera and I wasn't sure you can get 60p onto the tape, it seemed like you could get 60p out in analogue.
Quality is something you should decide. I think the best conversion quality comes when you convert using a completely digital hardware solution.
I am not the person to comment on Multicam editing as I have not had enough experience and I haven't really got it to stay in sync when I tried it. BTW The Ripple downloadable Multicam tutorials are great. I will say DVC Pro renders very quickly with my setup, I don't have enough experience with PR yet to comment.
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