HDV NTSC content to PAL standard def

I have a sequence from NTSC HDV camcorders captured as ProRes 4.2.2. My target is a PAL standard def DVD made with Toast 10. Toast will do the NTSC conversion, but is that the best quality path? In theory, this should look a lot better than a standard def NTSC to PAL conversion, right?
MikeR

My target is a PAL standard def DVD
99% of PAL set top DVD players will also play back NTSC titles without issue.
Computers don't care whether the disc is NTSC or PAL.
If this is just a one-off disc, check with the recipient. There might be no need to convert at all.

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Greetings,
I am on a tight deadline to produce a standard def DVD for an art exhibit, from HDV material that was imported and edited natively in FCP 7 as 1080i. I used the "Ken Stone" method of exporting the 10 minute sequence using QT conversion, as a pro res 422 HQ quicktime movie, then I took it into compressor 3.5 to make a Mpeg-2 file for a standard def DVD.
The problem is that the video that came out of compressor, when simulated in DVD SP 3.5 (and also when burned on DVD) has weird "interlaced" looking edges whenever there is movement in the video. It is a figure against a black background, and whenever the figure moves back and forth against the black background, the edges of the figure show interlaced-looking lines. The rest of the video where there is slow movement looks fine. BTW, motion was set to "Best" in compressor.
What am I doing wrong? was there something not mentioned in Stone's walk-thru, having to do with de-interlacing, or something I have missed? Is there a better way to produce a standard def DVD from HDV 1080i material?
Thank you so much for your help. I am down to the wire on this one...
AKJ

exporting the 10 minute sequence using QT conversion, as a pro res 422 HQ quicktime movie...
You are adding an unneeded compression cycle for a start. Export with QuickTime Conversion always recompresses your footage, even when you use the same settings as your Timeline.
Export to QuickTime with Current Settings, Self Contained will give you a Master file that is identical to what you edited.
weird "interlaced" looking edges whenever there is movement in the video...
If your source material is interlaced it will look odd on a computer monitor. It will display correctly on a TV set.
having to do with de-interlacing, or something I have missed?
Deinterlacing will throw away half of the vertical resolution. Bye bye HD. No good can come of that, right?
What is your intended delivery format? Does the method that you are currently using to view the material compare with how the end product will be seen?

HDV PAL to HDV NTSC to DVD, best conversion method?

I'm cutting a feature doc shot in HDV PAL. What would you recommend the most efficient way to turn out an HDV NTSC master (to produce a DVD) for the North American market?
I'm far from any post production house, in the wilds of New Zealand. Ideally I want to be able to do the conversions using the FCP Studio setup ... but need to be able to promise my producers that the end result will be top quality. Is this a Nattress question? Like, for instance, does a Nattress conversion give the same quality result as a hardware conversion, tape to tape?
I'm thinking that if I can make a straight FCP\Nattress? conversion and end up with TWO HDV masters, PAL and NTSC. And then take each HDV master and produce two separate MPEG2's for the two DVD masters, using Compressor and DVD Pro ... then that might be the easiest way to go.
If there is a better (even though more expensive way to go, other than a $900 an hour pp studio in L.A.), I want to be able to suggest that to the producers also. Let them choose...
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Ben

Hi Ben,
Why do you try to conform to 24 fps if you want to convert PAL (25fps) to NTSC (30fps) ?
You also doesn't need to de-interlaced video, do you? What for ?
Is it for a theatre release or a television ?
Maybe I didn't understand your problem...
I've never done it but I would suggest to try to conform your quicktime file like that in Cinema Tools:
Open file
Conform
29,97
or
30
I think one is for frop frame and the other one is for non-drop but I don't know which one, I am not familiar with NTSC either.
If it's for television you should choose drop frame I think to have the right lenght.
There is also Reverse Telecine that you can use for NTSC but overall, I would suggest that you take a deep look into Cinema Tools help/manual because it's really well done and I'm quite sure you'll fine all your answers in it.
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Marie

Converting HDV project to Standard-Def

Need help with a project shot in HDV1080i60. I need to deliver it to a client in standard def on mini-dv tape.
I am currently exporting to standard def via EXPORT>QUICKTIME MOIVE. Then re-import footage and PRINT TO VIDEO. Problem is this:
1. Footage has pixelaxtion issues, almost looks like a "line doubling" or interlacing problem.
2. Footage looses the 16:9 ratio, Would like options to keep it either letterboxed 16:9 or standard 4:3.
Any takers?

Thomas Emmerich wrote:
Yes you do. Here's the setup for Canon HV20:
1. With camcorder in playback mode select the menu button.
2. Select the 2nd item (PLAY/OUT SETUP1)
3. Select the 1st item (PLAYBACK STD) -- Its probably set to A -- which means automatic.
4. Change the PLAYBACK STD to DV. Select YES to confirm.
5. Close the menu.
Make sure you do this prior to connecting the camcorder to the computer. See page 40 of the Canon HV20 User Manual.
Message was edited by: Thomas Emmerich
Thank you for this, going to give it a try.

Uncompressed 8-bit standard def with anamorphic?

I read somewhere about using a sequence with uncompressed 8-bit standard def with anamorphic as an option for downcoverting from hdv. I'm using fcp5 and don't see that as an option - just uncompressed 8-bit without anamorphic.
Any solutions will be greatly appreciated.

Easiest way to get there (I think) is to copy the NTSC (or PAL) DV preset, then change the codec to uncompressed 8-bit. The anamorphic will be set and you'll be properly at 480 lines instead of 486.
That I think answers your question.
But you will then be faced with a sequence which requires rendering before viewing, and after most edits. Which is a lot of work in HDV.
Consider instead converting the media itself using Compressor. Don't let the name fool you - it can also save out as uncompressed. You can take an NTSC DV preset there as well, and edit it to be uncompressed 8-bit.

Using Mac Mini with 16:9 CRT Standard Def TV by RCA connection!

Hello all,
I realise that there are others who have experienced similar problems but after spending quite a bit of time searching this forum, I wasn't able to find an answer for my particular circumstance. In summary, I can't get my new Mac mini to work with my TV at all. I need to figure out where the problem might lie. Please find the specifics of my setup below.
I have a 1.42GHz Mac Mini G4 with all the possible add-ons . It actually did not come out of the box for the first three months I owned it. I finally got it out this weekend and went to purchase a DVI-Video connector. I connected it to the TV by means of an RCA to Scart cable (which I know for a fact works fine with my Powerbook and iBook) and the TV just showed a blank screen (though there was a second or two of static each time I started up, as if settings were being re-adjusted). The TV only has Scart inputs so there RCA is going to have to be the connection method. The TV is a standard def Sanyo 16:9 CRT.
To make sure the mini was working, and enable VNC access (brand new mini so hadn't been set up at all), I took it to my office (I have no other monitors here) and connected it to a normal Dell LCD monitor. It worked fine, and I set up VNC access so now I can use my powerbook to control it headless.
I brought it back home and connected it to the TV again and VNCed to it expecting to find options to re-adjust resolution, refresh rate etc. All I found was 800x600 or 640x480 and I could not change the refresh rate at all. The TV is PAL but there was no mention of PAL or NTSC options. I took the opportunity to run software update and apply all the necessary updates as well.
After some initial research, I downloaded displayconfigx. It crashes every time I try to open it... so no luck there. Then I tried another application recommended on these fora whose name escapes me now (but it started with an s and also ended with an x) and to keep a long story short, I found it very confusing and wasn't able to find a setting that made things work.
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Thank you very much for these helpful suggestions and questions!
I'm at work at the moment but I do remember the answers to most of these questions off the top of my head and will get the rest when I get home.
When everything is working fine for the PowerBook, the resolution list shows a variety of interlaced resolutions ranging from 680 x 480 to 1024 x 768. There are about five or six options. The refresh rate options are PAL 50Hz or NTSC 60Hz.
As for how it identifies the TV when connected, I have to admit I don't remember, but I believe it just identifies it as a generic TV.
The Mac mini doesn't identify it at all. I can confirm this because I tried booting it without the monitor attached and then attaching it and I also booted it with the monitor attached. In all cases, the same options for resolution were shown (1024 x 768 and 800 x 600) and refresh rate is geyed out. To me, this indicates that it is not communicating with the display at all.
I think that adapter may well be broken as it's never been tested with another display so this is the argument I'm going to make when I go back to the Apple Store this evening!
I'll keep you posted on whether the new one works or not.
Please do let me know if you think there are any other tests I should run or not.
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Converting NTSC sequence to PAL?

I have read through the posts and it seems that this should be possible, but the only thing I have found to steer me along is a post suggesting the use of Standard Conversion, but that link clearly states that it not be considered for sequences in versions 5 and up of FCP. So I am desperate. I have never done this before, totally at sea - can someone tell me the steps and settings needed to convert footage in a HDV NTSC sequence (containing SD footage) to a SD PAL format? Any help or links would be very much appreciated. Thanks.

Why not use MPEG STREAMCLIP 1.9.2?
http://www.squared5.com/
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1: From FCPro > File/Export/QuickTime Movie
2: Keep all the same settings
3: Uncheck "Make Movie Self Contained"
4: Name and Save your movie.
This will create a referenced movie from the timeline of FCPro.
5: Bring newly created .mov file into MPEG STREAMCLIP
6: Use the file menu Export into whatever you'd like.
Let me know how it works for you!

Importing PAL, High-Def, Editing & Exporting in PAL High-Def

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IusprShv7Yw
A big thanks to John of REDGUM TV in Queensland Australia. Thank You for taking the time to E-mail me directly with the answer to my question.
Hughie (Hugh Daly)
JHD Productions Ltd.
Deer Park, New York 11729 (Long Island NY)
In a message dated 12/22/2007 7:08:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
Premiere Pro CS3 General Discussion --
Importing PAL, High-Def, Editing & Exporting in PAL High-Def
No Hugh! You'll be fine - if you have an external monitor it will need to contend with PAL.
I frequently edit in NTSC (in a PAL country) when my US clients need a good job done (Hehe!!!)
John

No Hugh! You'll be fine - if you have an external monitor it will need to contend with PAL.
I frequently edit in NTSC (in a PAL country) when my US clients need a good job done (Hehe!!!)
John
www.redgumtv.com.au

How to convert my NTSC project to PAL?

Hi! I'd like know how i can convert my ntsc project into PAL.
I need finish a DVD for my client take to ANGOLA and there is PAL system.It is possible? My Encore is 2.0.
Or It is possible put my NTSC movie into PAL project and let encore transcode the movie? Thank you very much and sorry my english.

You have several options.
1 - Create a new PAL project in Premiere Pro. Capture your footage in the usual manner, and as soon as it is in the project, hit the ENTER key to render it.
2 - Create an NTSC project in Premiere Pro, capture to NTSC DV footage, and export it out again.
Close project.
Create new PAL project, import the NTSC clip & then interpret/conform the footage to the project settings.
3 - Set up an NTSC project, capture footage, export to PAL DV or MPEG-2 from Premiere.
4 - Use TMPGEnc Xpress 4 - it's standards conversion is very good.
5 - Use ProCoder, as Ruud suggests
6 - Use CCE SP if you have it.
I'd try as many different ways as you can, and view the lot to see what looks the best.

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We are having occasional sound drop-out problems. They seem to only be happening on standard def channels although we have a hi-def box. (We often record sitcoms and kids shows in standard def to save room on the DVR.)
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Hello all
I work in standard def with the Sony DCR-SR80 (MPEG-2 format 16:9). I then convert in MPEG Streamclip. I use to export to DV format but more recently I'm exporting to "Apple DV/DVCPRO - NTSC" 720 x 480 (unscaled). My FCE Easy Set up is Format: DV/Panasonic DVCPRO Rate: 29.97 Use: DV-NTSC 32 khz Anamorphic. This is all nice because there really isn't any rendering going on. I film a lot of high school football so there is fast moving objects on the video.
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Worst, you play a standard def DVD in a HD set. The image (and the MPEG artifact)is upscaled 6 times to fit the HD screen.
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Hey gang,
My workout room's got an old tv with standard def (Red, White, Yellow) and cable ports in the back and that's it. How do I hook the current gen ATV my wife just got me to that TV and have it look goodish?

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HDCP
HDCP compliant converters will not allow you to watch HDCP protected content such as that from the iTunes Store. Non compliant converters exist but we cannot discuss them under the Terms of Use for these communities.
Resolution and aspect ratio
I'm not aware of any converters that will scale the output from the Apple TV, any TV or projector which is used will need to be widescreen and support resolutions of 720p

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Hoping this will be a trivial question for someone, since my DSP 4 documentation doesn't seem to have much to say about it...
I'm planning to produce a series of DVDs whose content will consist of a large number of video assets (2000+). Currently, these assets are in NTSC MPEG-2 format, with corresponding audio assets in either AC3 or AIFF. My question is: what do I need to do in order to produce a complimentary series of PAL DVDs with this content, given that DSP doesn't appear capable of importing NTSC video assets into PAL projects directly?
Now that I'm on an Intel-based machine, I've sent in my upgrade fee for the latest version of Final Cut Studio (which of course includes DSP), so I'll have that at my disposal. Does this software provide a batch-friendly means for me to do what I'm attempting, or do I need additional tools?
TIA for any advice.
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The quickest (but may not be best) is to run the assets in bulk through Compressor (but this will also depend on whether you have the Final Cut files still).
2,000 video files is daunting, so try to stay as organized as possible
Also as an aside, more people who use PAL (ex-U.S.) have the ability to play NTSC as compared to the U.S. which is more NTSC centric, so you may want to keep that in mind depending on the project, the audience and whether you will need a PAL version.

Changing the Videocamera Framerate from NTSC (30fps) to PAL (25fps)

When I am using the IPhone4 videocamera (with ios4.2.1) ... the framerate is something between 23.999 til 30 frames. That is very horrible for european and australian users because there is the PAL standard of 25fps valid. If you transform movies with a framerat of 30 to 25 frames, the movie looks very ugly. The picture jumps because of lost pictures through the transformation.
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glad I could help... you're welcome...
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