HDV Print to Video, My Settings

I've seen several posts here about problems getting Print To Video to work with HDV. I just did this and the results were great. So, at the risk of being redundant, I'm going to post what I did.
Camera: Sony FX1, captured using the camera over Firewire.
Captured into FCP using Easy Setup HDV 1080i60
All the footage was nighttime fast action sports.
In the sequence I slowed almost all the footage down to 33.33%, with Frame Blending turned on.
No dissolves, all simple cuts.
No other filters, motion, overlays, graphics, etc.
Sony FX1 Menu Settings:
IN/OUT REC
VCR HDV/DV > AUTO
REC MODE > SP
COMPONENT > 1080i/48Oi
iLINK CONV > OFF
TV TYPE > 16:9
A/V TO D/V OUT > OFF
Final Cut Pro Settings: (as viewed from MENU>FINAL CUT PRO>AUDIO VIDEO SETTINGS...
Summary Tab
Sequence Preset: HDV - 1080i60
Capture Preset: HDV
Device Control: Sony HDV Firewire
Video Playback: None
Audio Playback: None
Sequence Presets Tab
HDV - 1080i60
Capture Presets Tab
HDV
Device Control Tab
Sony HDV Firewire
A/V Devices Tab
Playback Output
Video: None
Audio: Default
"CHECKED" Different Output for Edit to Tape/Print to Video
Video: HDV (1440 x 1080) 30 fps
"CHECKED" Mirror on Desktop
Audio: Default
"NOT CHECKED" Do not show External A/V ...
"NOT CHECKED" Do no show warning ...
Before you Print To Video, make sure you have the Sequence in the Timeline selected. Otherwise you might get an error message. Also, make sure the Camera has a tape and its sitting at the spot you want to print to. (FCP will control the camera)
Then I choose: MENU>FILE>PRINT TO VIDEO ...
Leader: Nothing checked here
Media: Print In to Out (which was set on the Timeline) nothing else checked
Trailer: "CHECKED" Black 5 seconds
"CHECKED" Automatically Start Recording
After you click OK, your sequence will most likely go through a Conforming process, which conforms the sequence as required for HDV. (different from a render) Then the screen will go black, and you can click OK, FCP will cue up the camera, put it in record mode and start the print. (export)
One note: I thought I had also checked MENU>VIEW>EXTERNAL VIDEO>ALL FRAMES. However, when I was done, I checked this menu again and it was set to OFF. So, to be honest I don't know if I did check it and it went back to off, or it was not in fact checked. (lots of messing around prior to getting it to work, sorry)

wish I could get it to work consistantly for my GR-HD1 from JVC. terrible that one of the first cameras on the market isn't fully supported by FCP5.
I have to fiddle around endlessly to get the camera recognised. Usually in Camera mode and then quickly switch the Cam back to VCR mode after FCP recognizes it.
The people at the Sony Store here in San Francisco are so rude and ignorant that I will die before buying a camera from them. I went in to buy 3 cameras for my company a month ago and couldn't get any service. The only one paying attention to me was the security guard who kept coming over to tell me that I couldn't touch the camera in the display. I asked the sales staff I finally got to help me a question about the HDV cameras, and he just dissappeared. Never to return. Eff them.
I will stick to JVC even if it means changing my shop over to PCs. Which has been happening a lot around me lately. Video production people fed up with Apple refusing to support equipement. PC software is fully compliant to the entire spectrum of video out there. The blessings of being an open format I guess.
But, I love my G5 and would miss it.

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