HDV Print to Video Problem

One of my clients is having a problem trying the Print to Video an HDV sequence.
The workflow is to capture their HDV clips as DVCPRO HD via an Aja Kona LHe, edit in DVCPRO HD, then send the project to another facility that has an HDCAM deck for mastering to tape. However, for their first edit, they've created the pilot show, and they want to use it to get more program sponsors. Their only option is to use their Sony HMV-M25U HDV deck and an HD monitor to show the pilot to prospective sponsors.
To do that, they now have to output the pilot show to HDV. They've copied the DVCPRO HD sequence into an HDV timeline and rendered and conformed it. But when they go to Print to Video, they get this error message:
"Unable to perform print to video operation for HDV as
RT Extreme is not supported. Improved CPU Speed
and/or RAM needed to enable RT Extreme and HDV print
to video."
They have a Quad 3GHz MacPro with 4GB RAM, and the Scratch Disk is a 2-way RAID stripe using two of their four internal SATA drives striped together. The boot volume is on a separate drive.
They are using Mac OS X v10.4.8, QT 7.1.3, and FCP 5.1.4.
I don't have an HDV deck to try to duplicate their situation, so I need your help. If you've done HDV and experienced this error message, what is the solution?
They also have received these error messages:
"The sequence is not compatible w/HDV print to video."
"Incompatible settings. You may have attempted to
output a clip w/compression settings that do not match
the current output settings. Try nesting the clip in
a sequence w/the correct settings."
Both those messages would seem to indicate their setting are messed up.
They are 1,000 miles from me, so I can't see their FCP and deck settings. They swear that the sequence is an HDV 1080i60 sequence and that the deck is set to record HDV.
HELP.

OK, I have discovered the problem, and it's a doozy.
Her HDV sequence was set for 1280 X 1080, HDV 1080 Compressor, rather than 1440 X 1080. We have no clue how that happened, but it did.
Here's what I had her do last night when she was creating it: She changed the Easy Setup to HDV 1080i60, then created a new sequence. Then she went to the original DVCPRO HD sequence and did a Command-C to copy, then back to the new HDV 1080i60 sequence and Command-V to paste.
This morning, after I discovered the 1280 problem, I did the exact same steps and the new sequence was 1440 X 1080 HDV. I called her and had her do the exact same thing again, and now that new sequence is 1440 X 1080 HDV.
She is now rendering and conforming. I had her make sure ALL of the render bars were checked in Sequence > Render All, and that she chose Both audio and video. This should do it.
Now, the really tough part. I've got to re-read the thread and choose only two Helpful posts. Why can't we have as many as we need??????

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OK...now keep that in mind. HDV camera. Print to video is the solution...BUT...
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DVCPRO HD! That is NOT HDV. You cannot PRINT TO VIDEO via firewire a format that is NOT HDV. Not possible. Not unless you convert it TO HDV. But then you are taking a nice 100mbps, intra-frame (individual frame) 720p 23.98 footage and convert it to 1080i 29.97 Log GOP format. It will not be close to what your original footage looks like.
If you insist on archiving to HDV, then you need an HD Capture card (one that cross converts 720p to 1080i, BTW), and high end HDV deck with SDI imputs. But then you are changing HD formats.
Nope...wanna keep the same format? Then rent a DVCPRO HD deck. Know though, that when you output you won't be running at 23.98 anymore...it will be converted to 720p 59.94, as that is the format that the tape records. And you can't remove the pulldown, as outputting to tape from FCP doesn't include any 23.98 pulldown flags.
This is P2, right? Keep and archive the ORIGINAL P2 card dumps to bare SATA drives, or firewire drives. Or invest in an LTO tape archiving.
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OK, I have discovered the problem, and it's a doozy.
Her HDV sequence was set for 1280 X 1080, HDV 1080 Compressor, rather than 1440 X 1080. We have no clue how that happened, but it did.
Here's what I had her do last night when she was creating it: She changed the Easy Setup to HDV 1080i60, then created a new sequence. Then she went to the original DVCPRO HD sequence and did a Command-C to copy, then back to the new HDV 1080i60 sequence and Command-V to paste.
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All the footage was nighttime fast action sports.
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Audio: Default
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Leader: Nothing checked here
Media: Print In to Out (which was set on the Timeline) nothing else checked
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I have to fiddle around endlessly to get the camera recognised. Usually in Camera mode and then quickly switch the Cam back to VCR mode after FCP recognizes it.
The people at the Sony Store here in San Francisco are so rude and ignorant that I will die before buying a camera from them. I went in to buy 3 cameras for my company a month ago and couldn't get any service. The only one paying attention to me was the security guard who kept coming over to tell me that I couldn't touch the camera in the display. I asked the sales staff I finally got to help me a question about the HDV cameras, and he just dissappeared. Never to return. Eff them.
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Have you tested the camera with non-HDV just to make sure the camera works?
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