HDV to WMV

Hi All,
My preset is HDV 1440x1080. How to I get my final 1 minute edit down to a simple good looking (if there is such a thing) STD WMV file that I can email?
I "shared" it as a 500 bit wmv but it looks lousy. Any suggestions?
Thanks, Stan

...import that into Windows MovieMaker and put out a cable modem size WMV from there.
Steve,
Many on the PrPro forum have had the absolute best results using the free Windows Media Encoder for WMV output. I have not done a comparrison between it and WMM, but some of these folk are known as sticklers for quality.
Just a thought,
Hunt

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Basically, I need to get cross-platform AVIs that are readable by Windows, of finished projects, that can then be converted into WMV format with Windows Media Encoder. I'm aware of solutions like Flip4Mac and Cleaner, but I don't want to limit myself to WMV7 support, and Flip4Mac doesn't give advanced enough options in terms of setting things like bitrate.
I've tried a variety of tools, including Compressor, MPEG Streamclip, ffMpegX, and I just can't get cross-platform readable AVIs, either in uncompressed format, or using Apple Motion-JPEG at 100% quality.
The main problem with Compressor, at least 2.0.1 (if they've fixed it in 2.3 please let me know), is that once an AVI gets above a certain file size, it seems to be 4GB, but this isn't a FAT32 file system limitation, then the index header just gets corrupt.
That is, let's say I want to compress HDV to WMV. I have to:
a) Compress from HDV to a H.264 100% quality (or Apple Motion-JPEG 100%) RESIZED to 960x540. (half size) This is because Compressor can't resize files going to AVI
b) then compress that file to an uncompressed AVI
c) drag that AVI into VirtualDub on a PC, which will read it, but has to reindex the file, and then output another uncompressed copy
This does work, but it's cumbersome as ****, and there has to be a better solution.
The guys at Squared5 (MPEGStreamclip) said 1.8 fixed the problem with AVI's not being cross-platform readable, but I tried that version, and I'm getting errors, so I've sent them error logs to try and troubleshoot it. The error log in question is here:
http://www.goodcowfilms.com/web/mpegstreamclip18errorlog.rtf
ffMpegX will kinda work, if I use the Microsoft MPEG4v2 codec, but only up to a certain filesize as well.
DivX Pro won't take HDV files, so that isn't helpful.
Any suggestions here? I just need to make AVIs, in a lossless (or near close, like 100% JPEG) format that are cross-platform compatible.
Thanks in advance.
work: 4x2.5GHz G5, 4GB DDR2 SDRAM/home: 1.83GHz Core Duo, 1GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM Mac OS X (10.4.8)

How new is the version you speak of? I tried the demo for their highest end WMV suite about a month ago, and not only did it not allow you to set custom bitrates, but when converting video it left a green tinge on it that would come and go. (HDV to WMV)
I also apparently found out the exact feature or support I need... I need a Mac program that can write an AVI 2.0 complaint file. AVI 1.0 doesn't support files over 4GB, whereas AVI 2.0 has an unlimited file size limit.
Squared5, the makers of MPEGStreamclip, are going to look into adding it into their next version.
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Hi,
I am new to PE7, so apologies if some of these have been asked b4, I searched but couldn't come up with direct solutions.
I mainly edit HD WMVs, raw HD videos and MPEGs, to be used on PCs and on the internet. Most used output would be HD 1280x720(wmv).
I am having problems with HD WMVs in PE7, they don't seem to play smoothly for editing, clipping etc(choppy and jumpy are the words that come to mind). At first, I thought this was a memory issue( I have 3 gigs on a Vista computer with a Dual Core processor), but then decided to try editing a couple of HD MPEGs (same size) and these played smoothly, allowing be to make precise splits etc.
What would be the best setting for editing WMV HD files(as I said, mainly 1280x720 input and output)? I tried the HD and AVCHD settings(when starting the new project), no joy. Is there some way to tweak PE7, or adjust the settings when editing WMVs, or in general, is it best to import MPEGs?
Next question - I am going to be doing quite a lot of editing over the next few months. Do people find Vista or XP more stable to use with PE7 and Premiere Pro and how much memory would be best for optimal perfomance? If I have to get an XP PC for editing, then that's what I'll have to do. Right now, I'm trying out PE7 and I'm sure I'll have to upgrade to Premiere Pro in a few months, so please bear that in mind.
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PE7 handles HDV MPEG2 natively... so if you look at a clip on the timeline it will have no line above it, if you look at a HD WMV file on the timeline it will have a red line above it. For the HD WMV file to play back smoothly on your computer (depending on how "beefy" your computer is) you will have to hit the Enter key on your keyboard to render the clip. After rendering the clip will play back smoothly and have a green line above it.
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"Flip4Mac Player Pro allows you to edit WMV in FCP."
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aspect ratio, frame rate, frame size, etc.)
I don't know for sure, but my understanding is I have
to render because there is no WM9 option under the
"compressor" parameter in the Sequence Settings.
Because of this it is impossible to import WMV files
without rendering even with FLip4Mac, because I have
it installed and can still export as a WMV file.
Have you discovered a way to import WMV files into
FCP without needing rendering? This is critical for
me because the environment I'm in doesn't allow for
long render times, as it will slow down the workflow
of the whole newsroom.
"I can also open WMV in QuicktimePro (with Flip4Mac)
and save the file as MOV. I find it works smoother
that way."
But doesn't it degrade the quality when you convert
to .MOV? And for me, going from WMV to MOV back to
WMV will result in degradations at each step won't
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I am asking because I work at online company that will be receiving wmv files on its servers. This is a high volume workflow with an intense turnover rate. We are receiving hour long clips and re-editing them down to 2 minutes. There is no time to go through lengthy WMV to MOV conversions. We need to receive, edit, and output all in WMV.
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Hi Craig,
Thanks for the advice, a few things though....
"Flip4Mac Player Pro allows you to edit WMV in FCP."
The problem is that I need to render when I import
WMV files into FCP, even though I have matched all of
the parameters in the sequence settings (ie. pixel
aspect ratio, frame rate, frame size, etc.)
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"compressor" parameter in the Sequence Settings.
Because of this it is impossible to import WMV files
without rendering even with FLip4Mac, because I have
it installed and can still export as a WMV file.
Have you discovered a way to import WMV files into
FCP without needing rendering? This is critical for
me because the environment I'm in doesn't allow for
long render times, as it will slow down the workflow
of the whole newsroom.
"I can also open WMV in QuicktimePro (with Flip4Mac)
and save the file as MOV. I find it works smoother
that way."
But doesn't it degrade the quality when you convert
to .MOV? And for me, going from WMV to MOV back to
WMV will result in degradations at each step won't
it?
Curtis

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Hello. I'm trying to take a HDV file I captured in FCP and open it in either Adobe Premiere 1.5.1 or TMPGenc for encoding into VC-1/WMV HD AP (I'd like to edit it in Adobe Premiere), and then put it through say...Scenarist.
I have not been able to open it in QT for Windows at all no matter what. I want to keep it as an HDV file and not reencode due to file space issues. I have intalled the HDV plugin for Premiere 1.5.1 however it doesn't open in anything at all, indicating it's not a Adobe issue.
What i suspect is that it's not opening because it's in a proprietary QT wrapper that Apple will not let anyone access to build a decoder around. Once captured on a mac it's obviously not a .avi format file regardless of codec used.
If this is not possible a simple 'no it's not possible' would easily suffice. I'm off to get some sleep. TIA.

Probably best practice to start and finish the project on the same platform.
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Hello. I'm trying to take a HDV file I captured in FCP and open it in either Adobe Premiere 1.5.1 or TMPGenc for encoding into VC-1/WMV HD AP (I'd like to edit it in Adobe Premiere), and then put it through say...Scenarist.
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What i suspect is that it's not opening because it's in a proprietary QT wrapper that Apple will not let anyone access to build a decoder around. Once captured on a mac it's obviously not a .avi format file regardless of codec used.
If this is not possible a simple 'no it's not possible' would easily suffice. I'm off to get some sleep. TIA.

I doubt it's anything so sinister as "a proprietary QT wrapper that Apple will not let anyone access to build a decoder around".
More likely is that the codec is only for Pro applications and there's not been a port to Windows because Apple doesn't make any Windows Pro Apps. If you want to use Premier and it supports HDV, why not capture with Premier?
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I have a one off project where I need to film some shots in portrait 16:9 for output on (lots of) 720p digital screens on their sides. I plan on filming this with a Sony Z1 camera in 1080i HD mode on its side and then down-sizing in FCP and converting to progressive WMV files with Sorenson Squeeze.
I know the Z1 doesn't really do progressive filming. Would it be wise to hire a camera that does support it natively for best results? Or would Sorenson Squeeze do a good job of de-interlacing to 720p for HD LCD panels? Plus, does anyone know of a bracket-type attachment to mount cameras at 90 degrees on a tripod?
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Message was edited by: doug m

Tom,
I don't think that your issue is with the Z1. I think that it is with HDV footage in general (nasty format and all) but you don't want to hear that so let's work on getting you going.
1) You do need some sort of external monitor. YOu have several options, Cheapest is to buy a Matrox MXO and an Apple or Dell 24" monitor. Other options include cards from AJA or Blackmagic. If you are doing everything in HDV I would recommend something from AJA or BM that way you can capture to a more easily editable format like DVCProHD. Do a search for Kona, Blackmagic or capture cards aadn you will find a wealth of info.
2) for this footage you need to look at the original tapes on an HD tv and see if you are seeing the same thing. This will determine if it is a compressor issue.
3) How low did you set your bit rate? Max should be below 7 or some DVD players will have issues.
4) in DVDSP you should be able to bring in your QT ref file and it will encode it for you. If it won't import it makes me wonder if it is being exported properly. Are you going out of FCP by FILE>EXPORT>QUICKTIME>with current settings, and check Make Movie Self-contained?
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K

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When I export using the Queue button in Premiere to AME CC, the video renders out squeezed, as if the aspect ratio is ignored.
I can also see the squeezed video in the AME preview window when the file is rendering.
This worked OK previously in Premiere 5.5.
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Nvidia Quadro FX 880M
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I'm using CC, updated today. (see system info at top).
I'm starting to wonder if the codec info is not read correctly when using the Queue (Cineform codec). I took your suggestions and created a new sequence with one clip and used the same settings. I opened the export settings window in two separate ways:
Export settings in Premiere (Ctrl M). All is good in the Source tab. PAR is interpreted correctly:
I sent the export to the queue, and from the job in AME clicked the "Custom" link to retrieve the same settings window.
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My goal is to get as close to the original that I can get, just smaller, say width around 500 or so. Which encoding technique and settings should I be using to get the best video, with sharp edges on the motion. Also when do you export as 29.97 and when do you export as 30 fps?
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