HDV Widescreeen FCP to PAL SD Widescreen DVD?

We have a film that is finished in HDV 1080i50 on FCP at 1440 X 1080 (16:9). We now want to create a PAL SD DVD that gives us pure 16:9 rather than 4:3 letter boxed. What are the exact sizings for this and where should i be resizing?
I have found another post on discussions that reccomends using the method I employed below but I am unsure that this produces a perfect 16:9 video.....
I've been exporting a QT using the export command and the default settings of HDV1080i and that gives me a QT which is by 1920 X 1080. I then brought that into compressor 2 and used the apple setting of high quality 90min 16:9 preset. I altered the .m2v preset so that the filed dominance was upper layer, I changed the "frame control" to be custom (in "resizing control" I selected "best" on "resize filter" I changed it to "top first" and finally I changed the "deinterlace" to "best".
I then imported the encoded project into a SD DVDSP project and burnt it.
When watching this it seems ok but this method seems a little convuloted to create a widescreen movie. I am not sure if this produces a perfect 16:9 SD movie. What is the correct workflow?
Many thanks for anyone who can help me.....
Fred

I perhaps should mention that I haven't done this myself, and that I'm just trying to think through how it should be done, for what it's worth!
You're taking 1080 lines and making them be 576. If you just scaled from one to the other you who end up with a blur of the two fields mixed together. If there's much horizontal movement that might not be a good thing. Deinterlacing Best will probably do its best to mix the lines where there seems to be no motion, and ignoring the one field if there is a lot of motion. At least that's how I think it ought to work.
As there's going to be motion a lot of the time I would argue that just dropping one of the fields would be as good as any other way. Pick either field in the deinterlace options.
I just played around with the 16:9 settings in FCP, and it seemed to have a mind of its own! I wrestled with it and convinced the video clip to fill the document area. I'm sure there is a better way to make that work.
Anyway, having done that (set deinterlace, first field in my case, and squished to fill the document window), I then just did an export using Compressor, and in Compressor used one of the 16:9 encoders. The resulting m2v plays perfectly well in DVD Studio Pro, and I can switch the display resolutions in Simulator to anything I like, and it seems to do the right thing. The Track even had set itself to be 16:9 Letterbox.
With Simulator set to 16:9 display mode I get a wide screen, with the video reaching from top to bottom. If I set a 4:3 display mode I still see the whole video, but with the usual letterbox bars above and below the 16:9 area.

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