Healing Brush = Clone Stamp when used on separate layer?

I can't find corroboration on the web so I want to konw if anyone here has seen this - when using the Healing Brush tool in Normal mode, the opacity of the cloned pixels when painted onto the same layer as the source pixels will usually be decreased to blend better, BUT if the cloned pixels are painted onto a separate layer (to work non-destructively) the tool will NOT decrease opacity and the Healing Brush will work more like (if not exactly like) the Clone Stamp - true??

Hmm, It seems to be working differently for me now. Probably me being tired . I guess I'm just learning how it works. Here are some tests I just did. The top left is a cloned section using the Healing Brush with the "Current Layer" setting - looks identical to the original (even when not sitting on top of the original bg layer), and also looks just like the Clone Stamp (using either setting). The bottom left is a cloned section using the Healing Brush with the "All Layers" setting – NOTICE THE BLENDED OPACITY (as one would expect it to work).
I guess this is the normal difference of the two different Healing Brush settings...?
I'm working in both CS5.1 and CC (trial version). Thanks.

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Open
   C:\MMEDIA\Retouched Photos\Blake_and_Mom.psd
Duplicate Layer
Duplicate current layer
   5
New Layer
Make layer
Select clone stamp
Set Source Sampling Point of current application
   To: Document Location
   Source: layer “Layer 1”
   Location: 1420 pixels, 743 pixels
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Clone Stamp
Clone Stamp
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Spot Healing Brush
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