Heating Problem with K8N?

Hi first time post here!
I'm planning on purchasing the K8N for the Athlon 3000+. However, looking at the "Post High CPU Temperature" thread, I was a bit concerned of the temperatures.
1) Are the temperatures listed on that thread typical or isolated cases?
2) What are ideal CPU temperatures?

hi spaz (from ocforums) and philly
i hope i can answer your questions fully...
the k8n neo platinum is misreading high temps for newcastle cpus. the readings are thought to be as much as 20°C too high. lots of people are running at "60-70" under load, but NO one is reporting problems from high temps.. this apparently is very common in newly released motherboards..
everyone gets around 45°C for the "sys temp" in MSI's corecenter utility. personally, i don't anything drastic is going on here... maybe it's misreadings, maybe it's a natural temp for this mobo, maybe a BIOS version will bring down the number... i'm just going to trust MSI's decision to release this board and say that there's nothing to worry about with the sys temp readings.

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HT freq. 5x
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Quote from: SpaceSlug on 20-December-06, 17:33:57
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(4)   Then, let the system set for as long as you have patience, at lest thirty minutes.
(5)   Again, press the BIOS clear button and the Power switch and holed them for twenty to thirty seconds.
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