Help! amd xp3000+ barton temp's.... k7n2 delta ilsr

Hi all, (sorry for the lengthy post)
Ive recently built a new system based on the K7N2 DELTA ILSR, great mobo, however my cpu temps are extremely high! on idle 48C and on load nearly 60C. the mobo temp hits approx 40c on load and 34 on idle.
I had an issue with cooling as the cpu heat diode would freeze my pc as it was hitting temps of 58c on idle. i was using the coolermaster aero 7+.... no good at all!!!!! even when on full rpm. Now im using a vantec 80mm fan on a Thermalright SLK-800A. much improved, however still extremely hot.
after reading this review (section headed: Heat Dissipation: Thermal Conditions and S2K Bus Disconnect) :
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlonxp-3000.html
......on "S2k bus disconnect" created by AMD for the barton range.
As the article states, it reduces Cpu temps ALOT!! but im not too sure ion how to activate it or even if my MSI motherboard supports it....
Can anyone shed some light???
system:
Radeon 9800
1GB 3200 Ram
xp 3000+ Barton
Sound Audigy 2
Thanks, Sav

Sorry about the long reply!!! the first thing i would like to say is why does this happen at 58C even with the bios temp settings diabled??? pehapes MSI could Answer this?
I have spent countless hours trying to fix this problem and a lot of £££. A bit of background to me I am a design engineer and i like my PC to work well. I have the following main components
xp3200+ based system (Max die 85C)
with dual 512ddr sticks running at 400mhz
Matrox Parphilia
10K SATA hard disk
7,200 133ATA hard drive
Plus motherboard Nvidia chipset
these all kick out a lot of heat the (CPU contributing 76.8w).
first i started out with a very cheap case and standard amd heatsink. I found after about 5 minutes my pc kept crashing i automatically thought that it was probably the case temperature so monitored this found every time cpu reached 58C it crashed on the dot. The only conclusion i can draw from this that this MB has some thermal protection that can not be switched off but i am guessing perhapes MSI would like to answer this.
I quickly decided as an engineer that the best thing would be to go and buy a aluminuim case with lots of case fans (Basically a big heatsink itself). After a lot of searching i settled for a Coolermaster ATC110. It has four case fans all run at full speed all the time. Now this stoped the crashing problem it only now crashes if i put it under continous loading. Then i went out and bought a new cpu heatsink to replace the amd standard one. This had a minor effect on cpu temp but again under high loads the system crashed at 58C. Obvoiusly as an engineer i satred to think that the amount of noise the system with all its fans going at max is like being put in a wind tunnel.
I then turned to looking at the thermal diserpation requiremnts of all the bits in my system. I worked out that i need to disserpate 281Wmax of heat with my current setup. The kind of heat a small electric fire produces!!!. I begun to wounder if i could shift enough air through the two exhaust fans at the rooms ambient temp to do this. After some calculations I found that my case exhaust case fans are only just surfficent to disspate this amount. Which could explain this the crashing. because the higher the case temp the lower the capability of the heatsinks to conduct heat away from the item.
In the end i gave up with active cooling methods (heatsinks and fans) and realised my only option was to go for external cooling. I now have the system setup with a koolance exos cooling both hardisks graphics card cpu and MBchipset. I know this is very extreme but the case fan noise got to me now i have disconected all case fans except for the ones in my thermaltake power supply which are virtually silent. After about 12 evenings of testing and installation I now have a system which is not only stable but the CPU temp is only 32C.
Obvoiusly getting the heat out of the case is a good idea. The Exos is only running at it's lowest setting which means the  fans arnt making any noticable noise.
MOST IMPORTANTLY IT DOES NOT CRASH ANY MORE. AND THERE IS THE PSSIBILTY OF OVERCLOCKING.
The question still remains though why 58C?

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    I drove the memory according to the Corsair's specs, and I drove it on lower settings also. No change.
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    It's not like I'm trying to drive it over 200MHz. 200MHz is this memory's normal frequency.
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    Newest video driver from ATI may help with the stability on your gaming.
    Already have newest drivers.
    Anyway, thanks for the tips !  

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