Help! - colour profile of screen changes

Hi all,
I'm new to macs - this is my first. I am a keen photographer and will be using it to edit photos
Overall I have noticed a 'warm' or yellowy cast to the screen which can be changed by calibrating but the weird thing is...
the colour balance and look of the screen changes depending on how you view the photos. Just to test the screen i uploaded some photos into iphoto. If you view this photos as thumbs or even just double clicking on one (so it occupies a large part of the screen) the photo has lower contrast and more yellow white balance - if you then edit it or go full screen the profile changes to a much better balance with much more contrast - is this normal - should i be worried - is there something i'm missing??
I haven't tested it with photoshop yet but i'm worried that i'm saddled with a poor representation apart from on full screen
Please help if you can

Go to the Energy settings in the System Preferences and select the high performance setting, that will switch you to the 9600M GT GPU. See if that makes a difference.

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What I'm reading is that you want Photoshop, with its color management enabled, to display your sRGB photos as they would be seen on a true sRGB monitor - i.e., accurately.
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