HELP! Colour Profiles

Hi there,
Please help! I have been asked by a client to design a leaflet for his business, it's pretty standard and he wanted colours that are used in his l
His logo was designed in Photoshop and I asked for the original file but he only had a high res jpeg and a flattened PSD. I asked for the Pantone or CMYK values but was just given web values so I colour matched the colours used in the logo and transported the jpeg into InDesign and just carried on laying the leaflet out as I normally would using the CMYK colour match values. I sent him the proof and he said he wanted the colours changed as they weren't bright enough. When I looked at the Photoshop file again he was right, the original colour is much brighter. Changed the colour profile I was working in (Which was RGB) to CMYK. The colour in the logo immediately looked brighter so I matched that colour and it matched to an RGB colour so I changed all the colours to the RGB colour (even though I wanted to work in CMYK) which looked much more like the original logo colour.
However when I proof the colours it turns back to the duller colour. Does anyone know what is causing this problem? I have never encountered it before? Is it because it was designed using web values or am i working in the wrong profile? How do I change it so that the colour looks the same on the print document as it does on the PSD logo?
I need a quick turn around on this and am out of my depth at the moment! I have just set up Freelance as I was made redundant from my last job and I haven't ever encountered this before. Hoping one of you knows how to help.....I'm working in CC
Looking forward to hearing your replies,
Many thanks in advance

It's difficult to recommend anything without seeing the file. If possible, attach the .psd to your post. InDesign has application color settings. If you have Adobe Bridge, you can synch all of your application color settings there. I am concerned about an obvious shift where it is obvious to the customer. He says the business cards match, but in reality they may not. The way things are going, he will continue to run into problems matching color further on even if he does business with someone else. When you open the PSD in Photoshop, assign the Adobe RGB there and save it under a new name so you know in the furture it is Adobe RGB. Forget the JPEG ( use it for web only ). I am assuming the file is PSD because it needs to be PSD for whatever reason. In InDesign, set your CMYK workspace to an appropriate profile ( like SWOP Coated v2 ). Now, if the file is so dulled down that it is noticeable, then you could adjust the "CMYK" curves to brighten it a bit. This is an excellent opportunity to gain some more work ( if possible ) with this client. That will require educating him/her in the proper logo production techniques. No way should a logo be produced in Photoshop and especially RGB color space. You've been in the business long enough to know what the proper procedures are. If they are unwilling to invest in a rock solid solution, then it may be better to reject their business and move on. Client is basicly blaming you for their mistakes. The frustration is that the client likes monitor color which is an illusion. At this point, client has to be more cooperative and lead you to their business card printer so you can investigate what they received from said client as a file and in what color space using what profile. If printer accepted an RGB based file, ask them for their workflow requirements and file parameters. This should give you a little more background so you can beging to build a solid foundation for said client's corporate identity. If their vendor, along with themselves, refuse to cooperate, then forget them. It's in their best interest to supply you with everything you need to accomplish whatever outlandish color they were able to achieve.

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thekrimsonchin wrote:
I know this issue must crop up a lot due to its confusing nature
You have no idea.
What I'm reading is that you want Photoshop, with its color management enabled, to display your sRGB photos as they would be seen on a true sRGB monitor - i.e., accurately.
Something to always keep in mind, when everything's set right and working properly: Your sRGB image displayed on your wide gamut monitor without color management (e.g., by Internet Explorer) will look bolder and brighter (more color-saturated) than the same image displayed in Photoshop with color-management. There is no getting around this, because the sRGB profile is not equivalent to the monitor profile. Do not expect them to look the same.
It's hard, without being there and seeing what you're seeing, to judge whether your sRGB images are undersaturated compared to what's seen on other monitors. I do know, as one with sRGB monitors myself, that images can look quite vibrant and alive in the sRGB color space.
What we can't know is whether your judgment that your color-managed sRGB images are undersaturated is correct in an absolute sense, or whether you're just feeling the difference between seeing them on your monitor in non-color-managed apps and Photoshop.
Photoshop normally does its color management like this: It combines the information from the color profile in your document with the color profile of the monitor, which it retrieves from a standard place in Windows, and creates a transform used to display the colors.
To have it do this you would NOT want the Proof Colors setting enabled. It is the default behavior.
-Noel
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Try posting in the Adobe Camera Raw forum:
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You might want to do a forum search there before posting, though. This comes up repeatedly and has been discussed ad nauseam there.
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Fixing the problem by post processing the photos on my site every time I publish would be impossible with the amount of photos I have and my intention of updating the web galleries regularly.
As you can find out if you go to a photo page on my site:
< <a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://">http://web.mac.com/adrian_malloch/iWeb/AdrianMallochPhotography/ Kabaddi.html > some pages take horrendously long to load. Check out some of the other Subculture pages. I haven't tested them all but Safari Activity viewer shows that most of the slow speed is related to opening jpeg files.
Any help and informed suggestions would be hugely appreciated.

This is doing my head in.
My last two comments "posted" half way through writing, before I had a chance to edit completely.
Here's how it should have read :
Using sRGB as a monitor profile, in itself, doesn't make a lot of sense.
A monitor profile is custom made specifically for the monitor to compensate for its display characteristics.
A "good enough" monitor profile is to use the software calibration built into the Displays preferences. Go to System Preferences/Displays/Color/Calibrate and follow the prompts. Hint: squint as you try to judge the colour and tone differences. The idea is to make the detail so fuzzy you don't notice it.
It's not very accurate, especially with LCD screens, but it's better than nothing and certainly better than using a universal colour space like sRGB, etc.
The accurate option is to get hold of a hardware calibrator like the Spyder, or Gretag-McBeth iOne Display (which I use). It costs a bit but is vital for accurate repeatable colour.
The whole point is that when the profile is made up and is set as the default profile, then you will get a WYSIWYG screen.
So, the same images will look the same on different monitors providing they each have accurate monitor profiles made specifically for them.
If you use sRGB as your monitor profile then you cannot expect the image to look the same on any one else's machine, whether they use sRGB, a monitor profile or any other profile. Worse still, if you change an image to "look right" on your screen, chances are that the image will look horrible on another screen.
Hence, why I will only switch to sRGB monitor profile as a workaround for uploading in iWeb. Nothing else!!

Colour profiling with Canon ip6600d

Hello can anyone please help me?
I am using the above printer on Canon Photo Paper Plus Glossy with Canon original inks.
If I let PS (CS6) manage the profile and set the printer driver colour correction to NONE the driver set itself back to Driver Matching setting straight away. The result is extremely saturated colours in some areas.
If I dont allow PS to manage the profile but let the driver do it automatically the colour results are much better but... surely it would be better to have PS managing the colour profiles.
Why does it keep changing the setting please?
Sorry if I have not explained this clearly.
Trish

That sounds like a bug in the driver -- when the application is managing color, the driver should disable it's color controls (and get out of the way).

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