HELP???? external synths.... NI absynth ?????

has any 1 used external synths... im thinking of buying NIS absynth 5 or massive and although the demo lets me use the it in key strokes. when i burn the tune to disc there not there ... A. im i jus doing some thing wrong ????? . B. is it because its a demo and the full version works?????? or C. does it not burn with logic ????

Might be the demo version...it should be clear what you can do in the text document(or smthng like that) in the folder than includes the demo...downloaded from NI...
The full versions work perfect!!
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So my question is: Is Logic user-friendly when it comes to accessing sounds on external synthesizers? In the early 90's I used a setup with point-and-click access to external sythesizers. I don't remember which program, but it may have been Cubase. There was a lovely drop-down menu where I could select the Oboe from my Proteus/2, or a drum kit from my Korg 05/RW.
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So - in the early days of logic 5.5 i distinctly remembering that i had external
synths, which i routed through logic, so that i could 1) Pick a midichannel
that gave me the corresponding channel on the synth (like part 1), and 2)
I could see a visible fader, with the EXACT same look and options on it,
as any normal audio channel. Ie. i could put plugins on it, and so on.
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my logic pro 8, and while i can play it using a midi keyboard, and i can see
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pan settings, and rev + chorus
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http://www.tweakheadz.com/howto_get_started_withmidi.html
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