HELP! HELP! HELP! KT4 Ultra (6590)

Hi People,
About a month ago I bought a new system... Here are the specs....
- AthlonXP 1800+
- MSI KT4 Ultra (MS-6590)
- 512 Mb DDR PC2700 (Spetek)
- MSI GeForce4 MX440 AGP
- Maxtor DiamondMax 9 60Gb IDE
- LG CD-RW 52x24x52 IDE
- Generic 60x CD-Rom IDE
- 320w Power Supply (AMD Certified)
I have the following problem... RANDOM BOOTS! :( I dunno what is the problem... But I have some questions to MSI and for you... My KT4 hasn´t a cooler chipset on northbrigde, is it normal? Cause my system temperature is between 46ºC (idle) and 48ºC (full)... and my CPU is 47ºC (idle) and 52ºC (full)... HELP! HELP! HELP! What should I do? Ah, BIOS version is 1.2...
Best regards,
Bruno.

Your PC setup is pretty similar to mine. I had similar reboots as well and suspected the KT4 Ultra. It turned out to be a dodgy stick of RAM. Try the ramtesters from http://www.simmtester.com and http://www.memtest86.com, they'll definately find any RAM problems. Other than that disable the auto reboot on crash and see what the message on the Blue Screen tells you.
For info, since my rebuild with a new stick of ram I'm running...
4in1 v4.45
Latest MSI drivers from MSI Update v2 (except the beta graffics driver)
Bios 1.3 (though 1.2 seemed ok to me)
XP SP1 with all updates from MS.
Hope this helps...
YT

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I just bought a Athlon XP 3000+ (333 FSB), and I cannot run it at any higher of a FSB than 100. I have a volcano + SLK900 hsf, and am running around 20 degrees C at idle. Anytime I place a load on the processor, it dies... I have the newest KT4 Ultra bios (1.4). Please let me know if you guys have any ideas!
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by strain I mean something that makes the computer work hard (ie, benchmark like Sandrasoft/3dMark, or a newer game). I notice it dies because the whole computer shuts powers down.
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ATI Radeon 9000 128Mb (this will do until DX9 cards available
Intel 100 Pro network card for my ADSL hub (my KT4 did not come with onboard network socket)
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Hi
I have the same problem when I set FSB to 200Mhz - DDR to 400Mhz and on boot screen i always see DDR 333.
I make a test and when I use 152Mhz FSB (or up) DDR Always is 333Mhz no maters than in Bios is saved DDR400.
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t-bred 1700+ (133x10.5) fabrique unlocked
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I also make a mem tests with Sandra 2003 when
I use 200Fsb x 8.5 and Bios DDR 333 and
200Fsb x 8.5 and Bios DDR 400
the results is the same .
I'm sure that On boot Screen DDR information is right.
and always DDR is on 333 mhz wneh FSB is more than 152mhz No mather what you set in Bios ( 266 or 333 or 400)
And other strange thing is:
with my previous locked XP 1600+ (10.5 x 133) I can run on 166FSB / MEM with this DDR (samsung) on max aggressive settings 2.5 2-5-2 1 Ultra
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