Help installing Tiger 10.4 on Powerbook G4 12"

Hello,
I have a Powerbook G4 12" with the following specs:
CPU Speed: 1.33 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 1.25 GB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz
I am currently running OS X 10.3 and I am trying to install OS X 10.4. I have a retail DVD version (black with silver X) and am able to open the DVD where it shows the icon to "install." However, when I restart or try to boot up from the DVD, it does not work. Instead my computer just starts up normally and takes me to the login screen.
Any help or suggestions? Thanks.

BD:
someday I'll pin down the point where they were no longer separate!
I am not sure about this, but my guess is that when the computer shipped with the OS on CDs, which is most computers up to Panther, the AHT came on a separate disk. However, this is not a hard and fast rule, as Panther came on DVD for some computers, particularly iMacs. When you get it pinned down be sure to let me know.
cornelius

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If you have important data on your drive you should anyway consider such an external hard drive for easy, safe and fast backup ! Prices droped significantly and a low capacity (120 gig) external firewire drive shouldn't cost over $100.-- (unlike a computer, they easely fit in a safe when you are away for a long period...)
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1661
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