HELP me with my K7N2 delta ilsr
Can anyone help me with this problem. I have just upgraded to MSI's K7N2 delta ilsr motherboard. Its all working quite well apart from the fact that the pc wont start up from cold....at all.
When I start the pc from an off state, it runs up the fans and drives, but does not post.
The diagnostic led pannel on the back of the pc shows that the cpu is faulty or not installed correctly.
If I then press the reset button, the pc posts, and boots up just fine.
It does this EVERY time I start up.
I have tried re installing the cpu, which is an XP 2800+ 333 barton, but to no avail.
I have asked a few questions on other forums, but I cant solve it.
These are the suggestions so far.
1. the psu (I have a Tsunami 400 atx psu) could not be giving out enough power on initial startup, but once the pc is running, it has enough to boot the pc from a reset.
2. The mobo or the bios could be at fault. I have not flashed the bios, or upgraded it in any way from original, so is there an issue with the original bios on these boards, and 2800 barton chips??? Could it be a mobo fault? The pc runs fine once the machine is booted.? how do I test it?
3. The cpu could be faulty? but would this not stop it running fuull stop?
4. my ram. I have a single stick of OCZ 512mb pc3200 ddr, which I was told would make the pc fly. Not shure on that statement, but is this ram compatible?? could this be the problem?
Im fairly new to the upgrade side of things, and I need some help with this one.
Also, Id be really greatfull if some one could talk me through flashing my bios to the latest version, as the thought of doing this narks me a bit...I dont want to mess it up and get a dead pc...
HELP
+3.3v 14A
+5v 28A
+12v 16A
+5vsb 2A
-5v 0.5A
-12v 0.8A
Hope this helps, as my pc seems to be living with its case off a lot these days..haha
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Someone plz help me with my k7n2 delta-ilsr
Hey everyone,
I just put my sytem togother and ran into a problem. I got the system to boot up just fine. It was not until I tried installing windows xp proffesional that I ran into problems. The installation process runs pretty smoothly, until the computer reboots to run windows for the first time. After it reboots the windows logo appears and the after 2 seconds or so, a blue screen appears saying that windows was shut down to prevent any damage to my computer. I have never encountered this problem before when I built other systems. The screen suggests that I should check my HDD's for viruses or check to see if they are configured correctly. The HDD's are SATA and I have them set up in RAID 0 mode and yeah I installed the RAID drivers during the installation process. Thinking that I had made mistake setting up the SATA drives, tried installing windows using a regular IDE hard drive and it gave the same message. I am stumped anybody have any ideas of what I might be doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated . My system specs are below.
MSI k7n2 delta-ilsr mobo
AMD 3000+ Athlon XP cpu (333 fsb)
ATI Raedon 9000 ( I know it's crappy , I'm still saving up for the ATI all in wonder 9800 )
x1 kingston 512mb pc3200 DIMM
x2 maxtor 80gb maxtor hdd's
x1 regular cd-rom drive
x1 floppy drive
420w raidmax psu
(+3.3v = 26A, +5v = 32A, +12v=13A)Memory that comes with timing of 5 2 2 2 or 6 2 2 2 or usally winbond BH-5 memory chips. Ones with 5 3 2 2 or CH-5 winbond chips. The BH-5 chips overclock a little better than the CH-5. (Muskin uses BH-5 winbond in there black ram)
Winbond is no longer making BH-5 chips but is going to make a limited run of them as demend is high for them.
The first number shown here is the Traz and it controls the flush timing bench testing is showing that a higher number of 9, 10 or 11 or getting better bench results than the 6 or 5. Thats with Dual Channel memory.
The timing you show probly should be something like 8 3 3 3 or 8 3 3 2.5 unless it is there faster Dual channel ram.
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G4Ti4200-VTD64 voltage incompatibility with MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR??
Hello,
I have the MSI G4Ti4200-VTD64 (4X) video card.. I want to upgrade my motherboard to K7N2 Delta-ILSR. Is there any voltage incompatibility?? I heard that new mother boards will support only AGP 1.5V. Is the AGP voltage of K7N2 Delta-ILSR 1.5volts?? Is my video card compatible with this voltage?? I really want to retain my current video card as I am quite satisfied with it and I'm not willing to invest on a new one at the moment. If there is an incompatibility could you suggest another Socket A MB with good performance and SATA RAID support.
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Lock Ups with MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR [Resolved] thnx!
Well this is a first for me and it is driving me nucking futs !,
I have been building my own pc's for at least 10 years now and never had a problem where I have even needed to come to a forum like this. So as I see there are some very helpful and knowledgable peeps (nice work guys) here I thought I would ask as I have read through all stickies etc... and have not actually seen an answer to the problems of locking up. I am fast forming the opinion that this motherboard has a serious problem that MSI have not fixed yet. Anyway here is some info on the spec and what I have tried so far :
Have checked for viruses...
Did a fresh format and re-install...
Unplugged all that is not essential to run...
Symptoms..
Cannot write files to make a DVD in any authoring program.. it locks up after about 5 minutes
Locks up in most Games, some run for 5 mins then other times run for hours
Cannot run some setup.exe files (Like Zone Alarm Pro)
Sometimes (locks up just surfing)
Microsoft Word seems to mess up a lot and have to run the repair option..
IRQ Settings
IRQ 0 System timer OK
IRQ 1 Easy Internet Keyboard OK
IRQ 3 Communications Port (COM2) OK
IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK
IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK
IRQ 10 NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management OK
IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
IRQ 14 NVIDIA nForce 2 ATA Controller (v2.5) OK
IRQ 15 NVIDIA nForce 2 ATA Controller (v2.5) OK
IRQ 17 Creative SB Audigy OK
IRQ 18 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller OK
IRQ 18 WinXP Promise FastTrak 376/378 (tm) Controller OK
IRQ 19 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600 OK
IRQ 20 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller OK
IRQ 21 NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller OK
IRQ 22 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller OK
Readings from MSI PC Alert 4
CPU Temp : 48 C
System Temp : 33 C
Vcore : 1.63
3.3V : 3.31
+5v : 5.00
+12v : 11.70
I am about seriously considering giving this board some cement legs and drowning it ! This is my first (and probably last) MSI board and cannot believe the problems so many seem to have. Maybe best and quickest option is to do just that and go buy a decent board.
Any help much appreciated.Hi,
First of all thanks to all for the help, and CJLittle...LMAO ! My car is a Scooby and a nice blue paint job ! Believe it or not they assured me all this would work.. I bought it in one package and even questioned it. Also to be fair up until then they had always been very good... shows they have no zero about 3200XP 200 fsbetc... When I went back with the power supply and told them they changed it out and let me off on the extra money it should have been.
The crashes are as follows :-
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Locks up after random amounts of time in games, sometimes dont even get to load it up at all, other times I can play 2 hours. When the games lock up usually there is a high pitch squeal and can only get out of it by reset or power off.
I cannot install Zone Alarm Pro or Agnitum Outpost are 2 anyway (there are others) these just come up with the installer screen and hangs there, I have to go to Task Manager to close them down, unlike the lock up in games.
The cooler is the Coolermaster Jet... and the temperature is more than acceptable (right now is 44 C) so I cannot see that at all being a factor.
leds are on on the d bracket when it locks, I did not know of this function and will check it out. Thanks for that tip.[/list=1]
Question from me: would the 2700 RAM cause these lockups ? I would have thought it would just not work at all ? If this is possible then I will go and change out the RAM as tuning it down to 166 (if it is possible) does not appeal to me ! But yes it may show what the problem is.
Thanks again, will see what happens... -
Problems with MSI K7N2 DELTA ILSR
I set my bios to high performance defaults and now when i turn it on the diagnosis LED's say that the processor, then the RAM are damaged, but this isnt the case as i have tested them in a different machine and they are ok. I have tried clearing the CMOS using the jumpers but nothing happens. I have read on here that the way to solve this problem is to set the CPU FSB jumper to 100mhz... could somebody please tell me if there are any other usjestions about how to solve this please...
NickQuote
Originally posted by Nerdyjim
cheers.. is it worth going for a 3200+ Athlon, or should i save the money and go for a 3000+ Athlon??
Get something like a 2700+, I've got one, if I OC the FSB by 5, I achieve the performance of a 3200+, I can go higher, but I don't want to until I get a volcano 12, soon. -
I start a new thread because the topic could be interesting to other posters too.
From the MSI website we can see that Kingston DDR is recommended by MSI
but a lot of users here use other brands such as Corsair, Mushkin etc.
WHY?
and
WHY MSI does not recommend Corsair and Mushkin?
I believe both are reasonable questions.
And now lets move to the critical question.
Does the Kigston HyperX (PC3200) 400MHz (KHX3200)-CL2 will work smoothly with the
K7N2 Delta ILSR?
Any input is appreciated.
Thanksmsi_ole,
I have 4 computers here in my home office with various configs in them...way too numerous to list in a signature...my main system that I use for gaming is what is in my signature...I have the K7N2G-ILSR (non Delta) board in my testbed system...I have an MSI Ti-4600 Video card in another one of them...so I DO use MSI parts but I really like the combo of what I show in my signature much more than any other combination that I put together with all of this hardware...The system below is the fastest combo I found and it's that way even with no OCing so why wouldn't I go with it?
Also having this ASUS board let me know that not only MSI has issues with their nF2 chipset build because I've had to jump thru many hoops for various things with the ASUS board too...most of their problems are with the dual onboard network cards and memory issues which isn't really different than any of the other mfg's out there...I like to tinker with as much of this stuff as I can to see if it's one mfg or all of them and imho and from my tests it's NOT just MSI having this problem it's all of them...
What I said about Kingston has been their norm for years now...I used to own a computer store and they ALWAYS back out when they have issues...it's their way cause it's easier on them than having to actually fix something it seems...I don't like them and probly never will because of my experiences with them in the past...this is just my opinion and take it for what it's worth...
ALSO, if you had read my sticky post at the top of the forum you'd see that I recommend that you DO NOT follow MSI's recommended memory list as it could have been that they got a batch of modules that actually did work in the 1 or 2 boards that they tested them in...batches of memory differ highly in specs and those lists mean nothing to me when I buy memory anymore...gets me in the ballpark and nothing else...so take them with a grain of salt because NOTHING in electronics is absolute...parametric differences of electronic parts can leave you scratching your head for days when you just KNOW that something should work...it's the way it is...
My background in electronics is quite extensive starting with my DeVRY degree thru Guidance & Control Systems for Jets and Missiles to Memory Testers & VLSI testers used to test Intel/AMD CPU's and the memory we use in these beasts that we love to play with so much...
I've seen so much crap happen over the years I'm here hoping that I can help everyone and learn some stuff myself on the way...
Cheers!! 8) -
FX5600XT-VTDR 128MB VIVO with K7N2 Delta ILSR
Hi there,
Just wondering if anyone has a similar setup, as I am planning to get the MSI FX5600XT-VTDR 128MB VIVO card and use it with my K7N2 Delta ILSR mobo, and have heard of some compatibility issues. Can anyone comment on this? Much appreciated.
Would hate to spend the dough to find out it's just going to give me trouble.me too, but i have the 5600 vtdr128 and want to get the motherboard
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K7N2 Delta-ILSR - USB to Serial Adapter Doesn't Work!
Is anyone aware of an error such as the follows with the K7N2 Delta-ILSR?
I am trying the use a USB to Serial Adapter, namely the a Prolific PL-2303.
However, my PC does not seem to like it, nor does it what to cooperate with it at all.
On one occasion i have managed to get the device to show in the Manager window with the exclamation mark,
and upon checking its properties it told me: Prolific This device cannot start. (Code 10).
I have un-installed all my system USB drivers and the device drivers, and reinstalled them, but again, no matter what i do i cannot get it to work.
Any ideas peeps?
Cheers, G.Don't think it will this time, but on occassions booting into SafeMode and removing possibly half-installed copies of USB devices from Device Manager has helped.
Is this what you are looking for, Henry?
http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?ID=33
"Note: Please take notice of the installation order. First, run the InstallShield wizard,
and then plug in the USB to Serial adapter"
...How many times have I said that, if a USB device needs a driver you install that before attaching the device!? -
Recently i had a motherboard that decided to stop reading the entire eide port 1. SO with the help of a friend i got a K7N2 Delta-ILSR. WHen i got it i had to reinstall 2000. When i did so i noticed a serious decrease in speed of the hard drive. it took hours to format a 20 gig partition. When i finally got 2000 installed i noticed a slow choppyness about the computer. I had never seen this before. after a while of getting very agrivated at the machine i thought looke dthought the book again thingking that i might have did something wrong. this was not the case. I recently returned from a 4 day trip to vegas and when i turned my computer on it read my entire harddrive as damaged or unformatted. i want to believe that it is just the harddrive but it is a newer harddrive and i just had motherboard problems.
i have never had any problems with the harddrive before i only had error when i installed this motherboard.
my specs are
K7N2 Delta-ILSR
120gb wd 7200
512 of kingston 2100
gforce 3
2100+ amdim running what ever drivers came with the board.... I m unsure what the versions are... I was thinking it must be the cable but i traded it out for a known good cable and it still had the same problems ... i have a feeling its the hard drive but i wanted to see if there have been any problems with the K7N2 Delta-ILSR that i didnt know about.... i guess im gonna have to low level the harddrive or some thing....
im on vacation again so when i get back ill try to replace the harddrive with one that i know works then ill see what the problem is....
i tried setting default motherboard settings... i just thought it was weird when i had been gone and the computer was off. that when i got back and turned it on everything was gone... -
After resolving many issues I've got with my K7N2 Delta ILSR (I still have no regret because I choose it over Abit or Epox), there are still some problems I could not overcome:
1. the system cannot resume standby (it goes in S1 or S3, but hangs when resuming before any image appears on monitor)
2. at a freq when I have stability with default vcore, raising vcore is producing instability (system freeze when running prime95)
3. system temp reported by mbm -last version- seems high: 48-52 degrees; the proc temp is always 4 degrees -no more, no less- higher
My specs: K7N2 Delta ILSR, Barton 2600@2170Mhz (10.5x206) cooler master aero 7+,
4HDD: 2SATA raid 0 Maxtor 120Gb, 1Maxtor 200Gb and 1 WD 80Gb on IDE3 (Lumberjack mooded bios 7.6), 1 DVD-RW Pionner 106D, 1 CD-RW Yamaha F1, 1 CD-RW Plextor 48\24\48, Hercules Radeon 8500 128Mb ,…, Psu Chieftech 420W (very stable voltages -reported in mbm- when running Prime95 and (or) other killer appz), Thermaltake Xaser III V1000A caseAnybody? I am worried in particulary about the imposibility of resuming from standby... please help
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Case Recommendation for K7N2 Delta-ILSR
Greetings,
I'm looking for a mid size ATX case that that has the front usb etc. ports prewired as to work easily with a K7N2 Delta-ILSR mb. By that I mean I don't have to plug each wire individually (with names that don't match) just a plug that goes on the mb. My eyesight isn't as sharp so hooking up those one wire at a time is tediuous. Not to mention the lack of starndards Does anyone know if this is address on the next rev of mb's (with pcix etc).
ThanksBrazos,
I have yet to see a case that has all the USB wires together, they are all 1 pin at a time. You will find the Antec line of cases very good. (You can always use a magnifying glass to see the pins.) The pin names on the Antec cases are standardized and easy to figure out.
If you want a good case at a cheap price, then go with the SLK3700AMB:
If you want a good high end case, then go with the Sonata:
If weight is an issue, then go with the Super Lanboy:
Take Care,
Richard -
Need help with jumper settings for k7n2 delta ilsr
I have a k7n2 delta ilsr and I'm using a AMD 2800+ barton 333 fsb. I'm not sure what the jumper settins are for this cpu. The users guide only shows 133/166 and 200, can anyone help me with the jumper settings.
Thanks, Ron.Hi,
As your processor is 333FSB - the jumper should be set to 166FSB as should the BIOS. As your RAM CPU combination runs at 2x166=333 or thereabouts.
Basically, as a general rule, if you halve the FSB speed of your processor you'll get the setting for both BIOS and Jumper. 200FSB=100, 266FSB=133, 333FSB=166 etc. etc.
Axel -
Problem with K7N2 Delta-ILSR, please help
First off, these are the specs for the computer to which I shall be referring in this post:
K7N2 Delta-ILSR
AMD 2700+
1x512MB PC3200 Memory Corsair CM64SD512
Seagate Barracuda 80GB 7200RPM SATA ST380013AS
ATI 9600 Pro
400 Watt power supply
Cendyne 52x cd burner
Here's what happened. I installed everything with only minor difficulties, mostly due to getting the hard drive to work. They were worked through with little problem due, in large part, to this forum. I installed Windows XP, and we ran a number of things with no problem after the OS installation. The drivers for the video card loaded well. 3DMark2003 ran beautifully. After I got that working, I went to put my friend's old hard drive in as a slave, so he could get the files off of it. This seemed to work well enough. Then we went to load the drivers for the motherboard. When it got to the audio driver, we got the old "blue screen". Then the computer reset and tried booting 98 from the old hard drive. We shut down and disconnected the old hard drive. Then we restarted to find that after the second screen XP would not begin to boot. After some playing around we decided it best to reinstall, because with no combination could we get the OS to boot up. So we reinstalled, with a full format. This time, the first thing I went for was the motherboard drivers. It stopped at the audio driver, again, and gave us the old "blue screen", again. This time, instead of stopping the boot after the second screen, it came up with this message
Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt:
\system32\hal.dll.
Please re-install a copy of the above file.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated before we decide what to do next. Please let me know if any more information is required. None of the bios settings have been altered, save to boot from the CD.
Thank you,
M.Cordieri would test ram
http://www.memtest86.com
and go to drive makers site and get their testing utility
other possibility is a crap psu like them qtecs -
Kate needs HELP!!! MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR
Guys...
pls help me...
I am assembling, yes I know I am a techi girl...., msik7n2 with radeon9600 and 2xCorsair Value Select 256Mb DDR 400Mhz PC3200 mem...(hence 512mb)
I installed everything assembled it... booted and loaded fine for about 3 times...
and suddenly....
>power on
>no video
>no beeps
>after checking hard nothing happens...
>only thing I can tell is that the d bracket is indicating "memory section"
....d-bracket from MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR is 1,3,4 red and 2 green. Which is according the the manual "Memory Detection Test"-if the memory module is damaged or not installed properly.
Why woudl a memory suddenly not work?
I know I was adjusting bios for this and that....
I think just before this happened.. I adjusted something on agp setting... but what ahs that got to do with memory?
COuld it be the mobo or memory or the video card???
pls help....
My email is [email protected]...
please please help...
and guys in MSI what is your expert opinion? mobo? or memory?
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllp...
thanks...
Kate xhi and welcome to this forum.
nice to se a girl here for a change
clear cmos jumper jbat1.
also try safe mode jumper j10 ans j11.
also try to reseat memory and dont trust the dbracket to 100%.
it can show wrong sometimes.
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COuld it be the mobo or memory or the video card???
when you got it running then run http://www.memtest86.com to check memory,
also what psu do you have ?
post max amps on 3.3v 5v and 12v rails.
minimum is 28 35 16.recommended is higher. -
Upgrade to K7N2 DELTA-ILSR help
Thinking of purchaseing the K7N2 DELTA-ILSR board and would like some help verifying the hardware i have not having any problem with this mobo.
AMD|2800/333 ATHLON XP BARTON
MEM - DDR Corsair dual 512MB X2 KIT|VS1GBKIT333
Soundblaster 5.1 Platinum
Liteon 52x32x52 r\rw
80GB|SEAGATE ST380011A 7200
60GB|SEAGATE ST360015A 7200
PSU- Super-Flower Silent TT aluminum 450W ATX power supplyTTGI TT-450SS (450W). AC Input: 100~120Vac/200~240Vac, 10/6A, 60/50Hz. DC Output: +3.3V~28.0A, +5V~42.0A, +12V~18.0A. +5Vsb~3.0A, -5V~0.5A, -12V~0.8a). MAX OUTPUT POWER: 450W. Cooling: Air convention by +12V DC fan. 10 IDE connectors, 2 floppy connectors, +12V power connector, Aux power connector
CPU FAN - OCZ GLADIATOR 3 Socket A/462 up to Athlon XP 3200+. Single-piece pure copper construction. Dimensions: 60x60x30mm. FAN: 60x60x25. Medium-speed. Or: 60x60x25 Quiet. High-speed. Voltage: 12 Volt. Ball bearing fan
Video Card - Chaintech VGA GF FX5700 SA5700 256M
It looks like a great board and i see some great reviews but also see alot of small issue with compadability. It looks like the 1st thing is to upgrade the bios, and hope i don't have any issue with my cable modem box (guess i could put my old network card back in and disable the mobo's built in net work if there is problems).
I don't do O\C so nothing to worry about there. My old board is an Epox and is max'd out with no future upgrade room, so that's why i'd like to upgrade.
Thanks for any help guys.
riderrider45,
If you do not need the Break Out Box from the Platinum, I would go with the onboard nVidia SoundStorm. It sounds better than the old Live! and uses less CPU Cycles.
Take Care,
Richard
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