Help : MSI Neo4 Platinum (non-SLi)

Hi,
I just switch from a long time Asus Intel user to MSI AMD based rig (I am more into video editing & encoding than gaming). I bought a MSI Neo4 Platinum with AMD 3200+ (Venice) and from my old system, I have the Corsair TwinX XMS PC4000 ram and a RAID 0 setup with 2 X WD 74GB Raptor.
Can anyone help me on :
1) which slot should I installed my ram in order to run Dual Channel
2) How do I perform moderate overclocking with this MSI Neo4
3) which will be recommended HSF for moderate overclocking
4) Will I experience the 219 BUG when overclocking

hgled8888,
They are all good heatsinks, I do not think you will go wrong with any of them.
As for the BIOS, the difference is Award vs Phoenix. I use mobos from Abit, ASUS, and MSI, you get used to them, if you can get though one BIOS, you will have little trouble getting used to the other.
As for moving over from "The Dark Side of the Force" over to AMD, welcome to the other side, you will love it and never look back.
Take Care,
Richard

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MOVED: updating MSI Neo4 Platinum (non sli) BIOS in XP

This topic has been moved to BIOS.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=94819.0

hgled8888,
They are all good heatsinks, I do not think you will go wrong with any of them.
As for the BIOS, the difference is Award vs Phoenix. I use mobos from Abit, ASUS, and MSI, you get used to them, if you can get though one BIOS, you will have little trouble getting used to the other.
As for moving over from "The Dark Side of the Force" over to AMD, welcome to the other side, you will love it and never look back.
Take Care,
Richard

MSI neo4 plat(non sli) sound problem.... and other problem...

hi
(sorry for my poor english)
FIRST ISSUE
ok here is the deal, i got no sound when using the rear panel of the mother board... but when i use the front panel of my case there no problem and i get sound....
after reading a lot on sound problem i try first to change my bios so i check the 1.8 and the 1.6 but still no result... , i also try to use the nvidia sound drive instead of the raitek one.... but still nothing ... in the system all appeare to be ok, windows dont detect any conflict on hardware on so one... even the nvidia mixer equaliser move... but no output...
i also read a litle about the compatibylity issue betwen the mobo and the atx2 PSU standard with the using of the 5v pin...,but as far i read it seem that this is only on the sli version...do this issue also concernt the non sli version ?can this explain my problem ?
SECOND
i got from time to time a bleu screem with the message DRIVER IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL.... can someone now what can cause this ?
thank

Hi!
I am also facing this problem with my K8N NEO4 Platinum Ultra.
I have even tested my PC with a PSU which is having -5v in it's rating.
I have also requested a help from MSI Support.
Their & My reply is as follows.
But still my problem could not be solved. My sound card as per the OS works fine and produces output. But no audible output for humans to hear.
This is the case with both front and rear panels.
I have even sent the MB for RMA but here in India, people are fools. Even from RMA the board was shipped back in the same faulty condition. What to say? Whom to curse? Only money and 20days were spent waiting for repair and in wain.
If any body can help it will be very nice.
Here is my reply to MSI:
My K8n Neo4 Platinum Ultra - earlier was giving good quality sound output. Later after 15 days of using this board, it does not give any audible sound at all. But through headphone socket of cd player I am able to receive good quality sound.
And also while using CD Player to play audio tracks, the output is very intermitent and feeble with lots of cracking noise and poor quality audio is heard.
Through Windows Media Player no sound is heard at all.
I reinstalled win2000/Win2000Server/Win2003 XP Server. In all the platform sound problem exists. Any solutions?
My PSU has 20amps in +12V rail and has no -5v. 24 pin adaptor with 400W.
SATA HDD 80GB WD. 256*2=512mb DDR 400 Ram.
CPU AMD 3000+ Winchester core.
Thanks in advance.
REPLY FROM MSI:
Dear SoftWheels:
Thank you for contacting MSI Technical Support.
With regard to yoru concern, we would like to know before the onboard sound function abnormally, if you have made any adjustment to your system hardware or software?
And at this time would you please try to un-install the sound driver in the Add or Remove Program, then install the ALC Series AC'97 Audio Drivers refer to the link below, after this please first check if in Device Manager there is any yellow mark.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/driver/dvr/spt_dvr_detail.php?UID=637&kind=1.
AGAIN MY RESPONSE TO MSI:
Dear Sir,
Thanks for your reply. But reply does not solve my problem. I have tried all that you said in your reply.
I have done nothing to hardware. No electrical problems or burning.
Due to no sound, I have even totally zero filled my SATA hard disk, updated bios, re-installed

K8N Neo4 Platinum Non-SLI

System Specs:
K8N Neo4 Platinum
AMD A64 3200+
1 Gig Kingston 333 Ram(2x512)
MSI Theater 550 Tuner
Hauppauge WinTV-500MCE
80 GB System Drive
200 GB Media Drive
MSI 6600GT PCIe
Windows MCE 2005, rollup 2
For some reason I can't get 5.1 out via either SPID/F interface(optical or coaxial). It was working before, so I don't know what I messed up, but here's the setup. This is set in my living room, with the SPID/F out going to a Sony Reciever for 5.1 decoding. Like I said, it used to work, I don't know what the issue is now.
Windows speaker configuration is set to 5.1 speakers, as is the MCE app. I also have the RealTek Manager app set with with the correct speaker layout, but I'm only getting stereo out now. The reciever I've isolated, and it isn't the problem. But like I said, it was working before, but now I'm at a loss. Any help will be appreciated.

Quote from: MurdoK on 24-December-05, 18:05:57
Hello !!
First try to deinstall all sound drivers completly, then reinstall them. Make sure your 5.1 system works properly.
Make sure you have the right output mode selected. (analog / digital )
Greetz MurdoK
All that has been done and tried, and and done and tried againn, and then I broke a plate, and then done and tried again.

New K8N NEO4 Platinum (non SLi) wont leave boot screen???

I just went out and purchased:
AMD Athlon 3000+
K8N NEO4 Platinum
Some standard case with a 450w power suply
On the +12v it says I have 18a
And Im using some things from my old PC:
(PCI) ATI Radeon 9200se (CrapTastic!)
Maxtor 40Gig (not Sata)
1x Samsung PC2700 DDR 512mb RAM
This is my first PC build and I ran into a couple of problems:
I have tried 3 different PS/2 keyboards(2 older and 1 newer) and none of them work. It shows the Platinum screen and then goes to a different screen that says "Keyboard error or not plugged in"
So I try my USB keyboard that I got about a year ago and the lights flash on the kb when I first start up but.....once I get to the Platinum screen the keyboard becomes unresponsive and I cant move off the Platinum Screen into BIOS or anything.
PLEASE HELP!

Well I went out and purchased a USB to PS/2 adapter and plugged it in with the USB keyboard that would light up but still not work and......................... STILL DID NOT WORK!
Im going on 2 weeks now with no Counter-Strike:Source and im goin nuts
Quote from: ck5134 on 07-September-05, 03:12:50
Grimster i agree totaly with jeanguy, you need around 25-30amps min on these boards, so try a mates psu.
Do I really need more than 18a with my system? How much money (ballpark) in US dollars do you think a adequate PSU for my rig would cost???
I am really thinking of just takeing it back and getting it replaced with the same mobo and see if that works.

Neo4 Platinum (Non-SLi) Audio Plug

I only purchased my computer on friday (17th of June) from a local retailer, and after the initial struggles i have only the one issue left.
i read other topics about on-board audio issues relating to psu conflicts and missing voltage rails (way over my head) but to my understanding that was only to the Diamond and the Neo4 Plantinum SLi versions only. I have the non-SLi version so here is another topic.
Having updated bios and audio drivers and done everything else i can think of - the Front Channel plug of the on-board audio is completely dead. not that the speakers dont work, and as far as i can tell not that the drivers dont work, but well and truely dead, nothing comes out speakers/audio devices connected to the Front Channel plug, not even EMI.
All other channels work fine, and i was almost prepared to purchase a Audigy 2 sound card but also noticed a (long) topic regarding errors there too. Naturally id like to avoid additional purchases if i can, so i thought i might ask the question: Can i / should i send it to be repaired/replaced?
I noticed there is a 7 day dead-on-arrival warrenty, but not sure if this applies to me as i bought it from a local computer store (brand new in the box and invoiced tho)

Ah ok i didnt know who i could take it to to repair.
I installed the drivers off the cd the first time, and after they didnt appear to be working i then formatted the PC and installed those Realtek AC97 drivers. Unfortunately, if i plug the rear speakers into the front channel and the front speakers into the rear channel - the front speakers will play music from the rear channel fine, but the rear speakers on the front channel will be dead.
Thanks for ya time.

MOVED: K8N neo4 platinum (non-Sli) SiI3114 RAID error on startup

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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=130443.0

Well I went out and purchased a USB to PS/2 adapter and plugged it in with the USB keyboard that would light up but still not work and......................... STILL DID NOT WORK!
Im going on 2 weeks now with no Counter-Strike:Source and im goin nuts
Quote from: ck5134 on 07-September-05, 03:12:50
Grimster i agree totaly with jeanguy, you need around 25-30amps min on these boards, so try a mates psu.
Do I really need more than 18a with my system? How much money (ballpark) in US dollars do you think a adequate PSU for my rig would cost???
I am really thinking of just takeing it back and getting it replaced with the same mobo and see if that works.

MOVED: Neo4 Platinum (Non SLI) Issues and Bios 1b

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=92767.0

It maybe the same problem I encountered. This Post: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=90337.0
Try starting your FSB at 230 and working up from there, if It becomes unstable at 237 ish then it is most likely the same memory controller/ ram problem I encountered.
Unfortunately I had to pull two sticks of memory to get mine to work, and I believe that it was just a bad stick , but I havent gotten new stuff in yet to prove or disprove that assumption. Either way the way these bioses handle different kinds of memory at different dividers is frustrating to say the least.

Memory not recognized on MSI Neo4 Platinum SLI

I just installed another 512mb of RAM on this system:
MSI Neo4 Platinum SLI
2 x 512mb Corsair XMS XL PRO
1 x 512mb Corsair XMS XL (the one that doesnt work)
IDE HDD
Windows XP PRO
BIOS, and every program i run that can see system specs shows that the infact all 3 Sticks
are recognizable. Though...Windows and a program that shows me my physical memory max both
point out i have only 1 gig of RAM!?
It's there, just not being used?
Now the only difference with the XL version and the XL PRO version is the heatspreader,
everything else is the same....so nothing should be conflicting.
Since the computer somehow knows all my part's details..im thinking just because
the new ram doesnt have PRO that it may not be recognized to work together.
Even so...ram should downclock etc with this motherboard...so this stupid little name
issue shouldnt cause the computer to ignore the ram!
I tried switching DIMM slots, no luck.
Any ideas?

It's a AMD64 dual memory channel system motherboard/CPU.
Valid memory populations are
1.stick in one of the channels .(single mode 64bits)
1.stick in each channel .(dual mode 128bits)
2. sticks in one of the channels.(single mode 64bits)
4.sticks ,2 in each channel.(dual mode 128bits)
3 sticks is n/a.
The population on memory controller , it's initialization and modeselection , single/dual mode is chosen by the A64 cpu.
It's been said that later rev.E cpus can autoselect unmatched population between channels (of e.g 3.sticks) and
set the whole memory pool in single mode.
But i have never seen anyone successfully test/run it .

K8N Neo4 Plat (non sli) Device manager error !

guys:
need some help. as stated,, have just received a k8n neo4 plat (non sli). just installed win xp pro (many thanx to people on forum for good tips on coming up clean). i have 1 problem, i have 1 item in device manager banged out (!), its a "PCI Memory Controller. i have nothing on mobo cept 1 6600 gt video card, 1 stick mushkin 3200 dram, i maxtor 200gb sata hard drive. searched on msi's site for this driver and can't find it. any ideas on what i'm missing?? sorry for not having rest of sys specs in sig but just got this puter up and running and i would like to get this driver installed before i pack it in for night. thanx for any help on this one.

igmox:
thanx!!! standalone drivers did the trick. when i was puttin this puter together i downloaded the standalone drivers and extracted them onto a cd. when i booted, anything in device mangler that was banged out, i updated the drivers via the cd. this time i downloaded the standalone drivers, ran the exe (unchecked the ide drivers, since i'm gonna try and run 6 dvd burners) and viola,, driver found.

MSI Neo4 Plat. SLI

MSI Neo4 Plat. SLI
FX-55
Antec 550 True Power
NEC DVD Rom
2GB OCZ Platinum Ram
and a single 7900 GTX
I was browsing some forums last night, and suddenly heard a loud *CRACK* from my computer. ???
The computer froze, but did not turn off.
Attempted a hard boot, and nothing not even a POST responds.
Popped open the content's, to see what might have happened.
And under the edge of my video card I notice that the SLI Switch Card has come loose. The little black plastic thing that was supposed to keep it in place had popped out. I attempted to place it back in to see if this would correct the problem (afraid it will not), but it will not stay securly lodged into place.
Any suggestion's on how to get the SLI Swicth Card Black Pin thing to work, or a work around to it, in order to test the system and see what, if anything else might have blown before I go for an RMA?
Thank you for any help or suggestions.

With regards to the small black pin that holds the SLI card in place, I have to admit that its a very poor design from MSI. I can think of two ways to fix it, and both would require you to strip the mobo down and remove it from the case.
1: would be to build up the "small ball" part of the pin with a blob of glue,(epoxy) so that it cant pop thru the small hole in the mobo.
2: Same idea as the first but using a hot knife or a soldering iron tip to flatten out the "small ball" part of the pin. (BE VERY careful not to over do it).
Best option tho would be to RMA the board.
Its the loud crack that you heard that worries me tho. Was it the physical sound of the SLI bridge card coming out or was it more of an electrical type crack that you heard?
Best thing to do would be to strip back to bare basics and try to go on from there, ie one video card, one memory stick and one H/Drive, Reset the BIOS, and set BIOS to boot from cd and see what happens.
As for getting a new pin from them, I would drop them an email, depending on where you live they might be able to post one to you.

MSI Neo4 Platinum with MSI GF6600GT PCI-e Freezes on games

I'm having this serious problem that my new build system freezes on games. Sometimes I can play for a few hours and sometimes I can play only a few minutes before the system freezes completely. Only a hardware reset helps in this case.
This is my hardware setup:
MSI Neo4 Platinum
MSI GF6600GT PCI-e
2 x 512MB DDR400 memory(in dual mode)
AMD 3200+ 64-bit processor
Sound Blaster Audigy
DVD Writer
Floppy
I'm using Windows XP SP2
What I tryd:
Tested with other RAM modules, same trouble
Reinstalled windows xp, same trouble
Tryd all kind of driver versions, same trouble
Flashed bios to 1.9, same trouble
Put a Zalman Cooler on the Video card (temperature now between 40 and 60 degrees in games instead of 80-100 degrees), same trouble
This is where my questions come:
There are two hardware components I cannot switch to try:
The mainboard and the Video card. Whitch one is most likely to be broken??
I have read in the manual of the mainboard that the PSU should have at least 18A on the 12+ signal. My PSU only haves 15A there. While I doubt this results in problems like this I still like to know if it does!
Please help me out on this one!

Have tried older drivers for you GFX, I find the late 6XXX work better for most games. You mite want to check the system is stable with:
Prime95, Memtest86, 3D mark 03 & 05.
You mite be having the same problems as "easlern", his games would lock up. This was due to to a problem with onboard sound Sound Blaster.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=84328.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=84328.msg603340#msg603340
Quote
At that moment I didn't even know what was actually on my board, but I knew it was a generic card I was probably never going to use anyway, and I didn't recall getting any sound card updates for this board. So I looked in device manager, and bingo: AC97 device under multimedia devices. I immediately did two things to completely eliminate the rascal: updated the driver for it and promptly went to BIOS and disabled the sucker. Also disabled SATA group 2 (slots 3 and 4), the Marvell LAN because I only use one ethernet anyway (the nVidia one, which from what I was reading, was probably the more robust of the two), both RAID controllers (actually I had disabled them earlier to skip the annoying RAID setup screen), and put the PCIe bus back to 100MHz (rogue: I was wondering about possible damage over time with this too high too, so I was glad to try setting it back to normal!) Also ran Driver Cleaner to rip out the detonators even though I was putting in another nVidia, and then put in the 6800GT and installed drivers. (In case you were interested, my 3dMark05 score went from 3511 under the 6600GT to 4939 under the 6800GT! I now run in 1280x1024 at max effects and I'm completely spoiled in one night already! )
Anyway, one of these myriad, desperate attempts must have worked because I get neither audio stutters (should have been a freaking clue in the first place, duh!) nor lock ups.
Since this is the first PC I've built, I was certain I had to have screwed something up hardware-wise or found some combination that had incompatibilities. If it WAS just the freaking sound card driver I'm going to leave this place in shame and never post again! In my defense, the MSI Update utility didn't show any updated sound drivers for me, and I had assumed it was being pre-empted by my SB Live in any case.
I was convinced this problem was (if it is indeed gone) a video card issue but I can't say it ever was without putting the 6600 back in and running for several hours. I'm going to bet it was the AC97 though because nVidia boards have always been fantastic for me, I haven't had any actual motherboard issues, my RAM and CPU are just fine, and Win2k has never let me down.
Don't assume anything, though, I've learned.
One thing to note: when I was checking out the AC97, I noticed it was *sharing* IRQ 20 with the nForce NIC detector (might have a different name, I can't remember right now). Apparently this is a capability of Win2k to share IRQs but it kind of added to my suspicions anyway.
I'll let you know how the next few sessions go and whether this issue is still an issue

My feeble attempt at a MB comparison - Asus A8N-E vs MSI Neo4 Platinum

Hi all,
I just thought I'd share a post I just finished submitting at the Asus forum. Here's my experience, in a nutshell, with both the Asus A8N-E and the K8N Neo4 Platinum:
I've decided to give up on the A8N-E and Asus (for now) in favor of the MSI Neo4 Platinum. The layout of the Asus board is top notch, but there are some significant issues with it.
The CUSL2 turned me into a huge Asus fan, but no more. After a week of playing with both here's my review:
Asus A8N-E (v2.0)
Pro's
-Superior Layout - See Neo4 cons below. However, there are two electrolytic capacitors on the back end that had to be nudged out of the way to install my 6600GT.
-No superfluous features.
-Stable
-Performance on par with other nF4 mobos.
-I love the Ctrl-Esc wake up feature and will sorely miss it.
Con's
-Will not run 2225 OCZ Gold Dual Channel RAM any faster than 2325 (bios must be reflashed).
-Quirky recovery features. You need the mobo CD or floppy disk. Also, there was one instance where it failed to post (due to 2225 memory timings) while running v1008 and I kept getting a BIOS checksum error when reflashing with v1008. Had to reflash with v1006. Also, one time I didn't get a checksum error, just a lot of beeps. Clearing the CMOS proved troublesome as shown in the next issue.
-Cheap battery terminal. IMO you should not pull the battery when clearing the CMOS with the Jumper (even though the manual says you should). It doesn't have a lever to eject the battery (just two little teeth holding it in) and my battery lost contact with the terminals when I put it back in. Afterwards, when I unplugged the PS the settings in the BIOS were reset.
-Somewhat limited instruction manual.
-Asus LiveUpdate failed to connect to a server on several repeated attempts. It never connected successfully.
-There was no Mobo installation CD in my box!
-This forum software and layout is really limited and frustrating.
-It's been three days now and still no reply to my tech support inquery regarding 2225 memory timings.
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum (v1.0)
Pro's
-Runs 2225 OCZ Gold Dual Channel RAM at 2225, no issues whatsoever.
-More reliable Bios/System utility. There's a button to load BIOS setup defaults in case of problems. Autorecovery feature flashes factory BIOS version embedded in mobo Core Cell chip.
-Packaging is simply beautiful. Obviously not a big reason to buy it but trust me, it's exceptional.
-Extensive instruction manual, test report, and large fold out color diagram of layout.
-Add-on module with diagnostic LED's.
-Stable
-Performance on par with other nF4 mobos.
-MSI version of LiveUpdate worked flawlessy on every occasion.
-Cheaper than A8N-E with rebate.
-Firewire port
Con's
-Inferior layout, although still better than others (ie Epox 9NPA+ and ATX power connectors). SATA connectors get in the way of my HDD's. x16 PCIe socket sits below x4 PCIe and x1 PCIe slots. This orientation causes my long 6600GT card to get in the way of the back end of one of my HDD's.
-Who need's DUAL Lan? And the ability to run 8 SATA devices is overkill IMO.
-CPU Heatsink Fan mount backplate is GLUED to the backside of the PCB. Had to remove it with a credit card and a hair dryer to make room for my Zalman.
As I'm sure most of your would agree the Memory timing issue with the A8N-E was the deal breaker. I'm sure in time Asus will get around to fixing this with a bios revision. The faulty battery interface was also a downer.
For now, so long Asus! Good luck A8N owners!
Jason

One big pro for the MSI you forgot to mention is this forum. This is by far one of the best forums for any motherboard manufacturer (if only ATI would get the hint ).
IMO I like the 8 SATA ports. I have 4 hard drives in my system, and I am desperately needing more. I have one more SATA slot to fill before I am out. Some people are absolute packrats (like me ) and they need the additional hard drive ports. The other benefit is you can end up using this as a low end server board (which I will be doing in the next couple of weeks). It is by far cheaper then getting a system with opterons. Instead I can just get an X2 for alot less, plus I don't have to spend the extra to get registered memory.
The dual lan can be really help who use ICS. This way they don't have to purchase a router.
Both of these I don't see as cons, as they really don't cause a problem. For you I just wouldn't list them as pros.
But thanks for sharing your ideas, hopefully this can become helpful to others who are determining what mobo to buy.
Have Fun
Jeremy

Msi neo4 platinum + xfx 6600gt pci express card..

This can be a stupid question
But i just builded a new system, with a msi neo4 platinum motherboard and a xfx 6600 GT pci express videocard.
which runs great, but when i start my system i see the following line (form the bios)
PCIe VGA LINK WIDTH X 4
And in my nvidia drivers i see this :
Bus: PCI Express X4
Is this correct ?
I thought it should say X16 or am i thinking the wrong way ?

Quote from: syar2003 on 08-May-05, 20:56:12
It should run with X16 lanes if the gfx-card is equipped with X16 interface .
Anyway the difference between 4X and 16X isn't exactly whohaa in todays games/apps .
http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041122/pcie-analyse-09.html
the videocard is equipped with and x16 interface, and the motherboard must show X16..
I asked a friend of mine, who has been playing with my machine yesterday en he says
it did show X16 in the bios, when starting the machine...
I did the following things :
- Removed an replaced videocard, did not help.
- Reset cmos, dit not help.
- Checked bios for an option, dit not help.
And also flashed the motherboard to version 1.2, dit also not work.
Looks like the motherboard or the videocard is not working properly anymore...
Anyone got an idea ?

MSI Neo4 Platinum

Why did MSI deleted in newer BIOS versions these wonderful memory speed deviders. In older ones you could set your memory speed on 130, 140, 150, 160 MHz, and now minimal value is i think 160MHz. WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ?

Ever try the modded bios by Murdock?
http://msi-forum.de/thread.php?goto=nextnewest&threadid=21036&sid=fb96cfd02cb0effa32bf11243740fbbf
Just translate the web page from german to english.
http://www.google.com/translate_t
All neo 4 platinum bios's
http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo4ultra/k8nneo4.html
All neo 4 platinum bios's msi site.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=637&kind=1
To get more vdimm voltage there is a mod for the motherboard. will void any warranty on the motherboard.
http://www.overclock.net/motherboard-volt-mods/62076-vdimm-mod-msi-neo4-platinum.html
I use the Murdock bios and board runs great with it.
Using ocz platinum 2 ram I did not need the extra voltage on the vdimm
Vdimm I have not used, but some friends of mine do and it works just fine.
All my system specs are on our web site www.flsurfing.com page server specs and has benchmarks and picts of the system.
Hope the links and stuff help you all
Frank

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