Help needed- SAP HANA implementations and costing

AS a project Manager, I am interested in knowing the details on SAP HANA implementation.
If any company wants to use HANA then whats should be the cost of appliances, related software's and integration with netweaver?
How the costing will be decied if any company wants to migrate to HANA?
Pleae help

Thanks Krishna and Raj for the info.
I also found blow link very informative in terms of costing related to Hardware, infra, software etc, do read if u get time.
http://public.dhe.ibm.com/common/ssi/ecm/en/xsw03127usen/XSW03127USEN.PDF
If anyone has mre views then pls share

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Dear All,
HANA is designed to enable faster ways to process data from business applications in real time, without impacting the underlying source system. I believe HANA will bring new and interesting opportunities to SAP. Which are the most important technical differences between HANA, BWA and BOEA? Which are the cost differences?
Regards,
Bob

Bob,
Here are my thoughts:
HANA: Here's my recommendation for the best in-class next-generation BI solution. Deploy HANA as a standlone server with two logical system partitions. 1st partition for standalone HANA modeling and 2nd partition to host HANA DB for BW 7.3. This way you get to exploit HANA performance for both SAP BW system as a database and also use the HANA power for standalone non-BW (ECC and flat-file) application that need good performance.
BWA: I would not recommend a BWA solution for a new BW implementation. Given the fact that SAP has announced recently that BWA 7.3 will be the last release for BWA. However, if there is a critical BW application in production that needs better performance, then BWA will be a quick fix solution. The cost difference between an SAP HANA solution and a BWA solution is narrowing down quickly. I do not want to go into details of cost.
BOEA (aka BOE Accelerator Version): Guys, there is some confusion here. BOEA does not support BWA acceleration for non-BW data source data. Meaning that if you are using BOEA (accelerated version) - you can load non-SAP and Non-BW data but can not accelerate the data using BWA unless the data is put in an SAP BW info provider (cubes,etc..). Only BW info providers in a BOEA solution can exploit BWA acceleration. Other data (non-SAP and Non-BW ) can only exploit on indexing capability of BOE internally but not the BWA. BWA portion of BOEA is specific to BW in the backend.
Also, please read my executive summary on SAP HANA @ http://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/u1AO5NidaMTYSD49JoHsjg
Regards,
Rama

_Patch level in SAP HANA Note and _Build No in SAP HANA

Hello Hana Gurus!
I need to know where can I find the patch level in the SAP HANA and SAP HANA Notes
For example, if I want to apply a note
http://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/1964428
there is specified:
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Support Package
Patch Level
SAP HANA DATABASE 1.00
SP069
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SP070
0
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Help->About SAP HANA Studio.
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Build id: 201205021925 (361805)
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Re: From Studio, how to know the HANA DB Version
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But what Patch Level means in this (and some other) note (value 2 and 0)?
Where I can check Patch Level in the HANA?
And, what are figures Build No indicate
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Here Re: Where we can check Patch leveles in HANA? referred to a certain table "M_HOST_CONFIGURATION". But in my system it does not exist. or tell me where to find it?
Message was edited by: Tom Flanagan

Hi Kirisetti,
please findanswers in italics
1)
I understand the database version and the studio version is not the same thing. But why do they match my system (see picture)? Or still the same thing?
By the way, to see the version of the database I used table SYS.M_DATABASE
A revision is released with all HANA components are part of the revision release and not just HANA DB server. So it is always ideal that you have all HANA components on same version as in your case. However is is technically feasible that you are usinga older version of Studio to connect to a newer version of HANA DB server. so Help-> About Studio would give you version of the studio and "select version from SYS.M_DATABASE" gives you version of the HANA DB server.
2)
and for the version and patch level
1.0.69.02 would mean HANA DB is on Revision 69 , patch 02
1.0.70.00 would mean HANA DB is on Revision 70
Soultion for the problem is to update your HANA DB to revision 69, patch 2 or Revision 70.
Did I understand correctly, if the note indicated Patch Level = 0, then we simply speak about updating to Revision, implying that no Patch Level? Or how it can be understood?
I'm assuming here you wish to know if you are downloading the right software for the update.
if there is a patch mentioned it is available as "Mantainence Revision <rev no>.<patch no>" for download and if there is no patch level mentioned(patch level = 0) they is avaliable as "Revision <rev no.>". Also update procedure for both Revision and patch is the same.
3)
Did I understand correctly, the first figure in the Build number (Build id) indicates the Patch Level? How it is possible to interpret the Build number (Build id) more? These figures represent something?
This build number is something that comes out of build repositiory. HANA version mentioned in all notes and guide refer to just the Revision number and patch level currently. You can ignore the build number

Are SAP HANA implementations on HANA as a Database or HANA as a Modeling tool

Hi all,
I've a general question today about the HANA as a product.
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Benefits/ Limitations when we use SAP HANA Extended and Standard products.

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Thanks in Advance,
Vishall

Hello,
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Where to download SAP HANA Studio and Client files

Hello all,
I am trying to learn SAP HANA and started watching the tutorial videos from SAP HANA Academy. Would it be possible for me to download the SAP HANA Studio and Client files so I can practice development on my PC? The video, HANA Academy - Installing the SAP HANA Studio and SAP HANA Client tools - YouTube, points to an old SAP Service Marketplace interface and I am unable to follow the instructions on where to get these files.
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SAP HANA One and Predictive Analysis Desktop - Time Series Algorithms

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Hi Micha,
yes i tried that some days before but it did not work. After your message here, i tried it again but same result, what i get after some seconds is "No Data". Moreover i am not quite sure how to set the data with model.setData().
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