Help needed with Snow Leopard/Lion partitions
I'm still using Snow Leopard but will be installing Lion soon. First I want to make sure I don't lose the few Rosetta/PPC apps that I still need.
I've read several threads about partitioning to create a dual boot for both Lion and SL.
What I want to do is this, and I'd appreciate a bit of help/guidance:-
I have two external FW HDs, daisychained. Both of them have two partitions.
External Drive A (500Gb) has one major partition (let's call it (1) ) that I want to leave for backing up everything, which I already do using CarbonCopyCloner. (I don't use Time Machine).
The other partition (2) is for specific files. When I get round to installing Lion, I will continue to backup on this HD, so the old PPC apps on it presumably won't work.
External Drive B (300 Gb) has one partition (3) that I use for backing up music files, and it won't matter what, if anything, Lion changes in them.
The other partition (4) on this drive is free and has about 30 Gb free. What I want to do is use my Snow Leopard Install disc and install SL onto this partition (4), including Rosetta, make it bootable and then add the few PPC apps that I need into it.
AFTER all that, I'm going to Install Lion onto my iMac (with the extarnals unplugged).
So in theory, I can boot either into the iMac drive itself for Lion, or partition (4) for Snow Leopard.
Questions-
Does this look like it'll work?
Does it matter that I haven't installed Lion before creating the SL Boot in (4)? Seems that several people have had problems installing Lion BEFORE trying to rescue PPC apps.
When backing up my music files from a Lion environment to (3), does it matter that the drive shares a SL partition (4)?
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When I want to run SL, I select in the System Preferences to start up from that disk, when I want to run Lion, I go back and select that and start up my computer running Lion.
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