Help please - Broadband not activated

Hi
I've just moved to BT from another broadband provider. My broadband was due to be activated last Friday (28th Feb) but apparently there has been a "delay" with the order. Now that I've been on these boards I can see that it's not just me (I wish I'd seen this first as I would have thought twice about moving to BT). I see that BT has taken the money from my account, and yet I am not receiving their service. I can't use the BT wifi hotspots where I am as I live in the sticks with no hotspots or mobile coverage. Luckily my old broadband provider is still providing me with broadband, but this means I'm payiing both BT and my old broadband provider while BT gets its act together.
I've navigated BT's annoying phone system every day since Friday which just basically culminates in a recorded message saying, "there's a delay and we're sorting it out". No estimated date for completion, and no chance to speak to a human being. Why does BT think it's acceptable to take my money and not give me a date for completion? If I treated my customers like that they would vote with their feet and go elsewhere (and rightly so!). 
BT - please can you put me in touch with someone who can give me a completion date - and by that I mean a proper date, and not the standard patter that seems to have been fed to many others on these boards. I (like others on here) am a brand new broadband customer, and the lack of customer service and information I have received so far is not filling me with confidence and is very poor, particularly as you already have my money and I am effectively paying for broadband twice at the moment.

Just something to point out - this forum is customer to customer. Though the moderators do work for BT (Customer Care team, if I've read things right).
Since your old provider is still supplying the line, BT Retail will be unable to take ownership - therefore should not be billing you. BT Wholesale can forcibly remove a line from a retailler, and re-assign to another retailler, but in your case, doing so would leave you without broadband.
For the BT Wifi issues, you should be able to login using your BT ID (email address & password you signed up for). If you're having difficulties, probably best to call BT to get advice.
My advice for beating the voice recognition system, when prompted for who you want to talk to or what about etc, simply say "Order Management" - that'll then prompt you for the phone number you want to discuss with BT. At this point, press #. It'll ask you again, press # again. The automatic system will then give up, and drop you in a queue - hopefully to the Order Management team (I've had mixed success getting straight to them). At most, I've spent 10mins on hold.
EDIT: Oh, and if you get to talk to someone with a Scottish accent, hang on to them!! They are very apologetic, and actually give information out to customers. I just wish they could progress orders more - other than that, can't fault the Scottish call centre.
My first activation date was 3rd Feb. Then 27th Feb. Then today, 4th March. I'm still not active, BT have communicated the basic reasoning, but will always pass the buck to OpenReach since it's their responsibility to do the work. And the customer is allowed no direct interation with OpenReach.
Good luck!

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    Working directory is C:\httpstest
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    Subject: CN=Joyce Stack, OU=Digisoft, O=Digisoft, L=Cork, ST=Cork, C=IE
    Issuer: CN=Joyce Stack, OU=Digisoft, O=Digisoft, L=Cork, ST=Cork, C=IE
    Algorithm: DSA; Serial number: 0x4020d3da
    Valid from Wed Feb 04 11:13:30 GMT 2004 until Tue May 04 11:13:30 GMT 2004
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    RandomCookie: GMT: 1078739209 bytes = { 61, 63, 239, 146, 243, 227, 70, 130, 242, 150, 202, 206, 5, 23, 7, 105, 12, 35, 16, 133, 45, 22, 144, 68, 228, 239, 35, 15 }
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    Cipher Suites: [SSL_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_MD5, SSL_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA, TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA, TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA, TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA, SSL_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA, SSL_DHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA, SSL_DHE_DSS_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA, SSL_RSA_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA, SSL_DHE_RSA_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA, SSL_DHE_DSS_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA, SSL_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_MD5, SSL_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA, SSL_DHE_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA, SSL_DHE_DSS_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA]
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    Cipher Suite: TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
    Compression Method: 0
    %% Created: [Session-1, TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA]
    ** TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
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    Version: V1
    Subject: CN=Joyce Stack, OU=Digisoft, O=Digisoft, L=Cork, ST=Cork, C=IE
    Signature Algorithm: SHA1withDSA, OID = 1.2.840.10040.4.3
    Key: Sun DSA Public Key
    Parameters:DSA
         p: fd7f5381 1d751229 52df4a9c 2eece4e7 f611b752 3cef4400 c31e3f80 b6512669
    455d4022 51fb593d 8d58fabf c5f5ba30 f6cb9b55 6cd7813b 801d346f f26660b7
    6b9950a5 a49f9fe8 047b1022 c24fbba9 d7feb7c6 1bf83b57 e7c6a8a6 150f04fb
    83f6d3c5 1ec30235 54135a16 9132f675 f3ae2b61 d72aeff2 2203199d d14801c7
         q: 9760508f 15230bcc b292b982 a2eb840b f0581cf5
         g: f7e1a085 d69b3dde cbbcab5c 36b857b9 7994afbb fa3aea82 f9574c0b 3d078267
    5159578e bad4594f e6710710 8180b449 167123e8 4c281613 b7cf0932 8cc8a6e1
    3c167a8b 547c8d28 e0a3ae1e 2bb3a675 916ea37f 0bfa2135 62f1fb62 7a01243b
    cca4f1be a8519089 a883dfe1 5ae59f06 928b665e 807b5525 64014c3b fecf492a
    y:
    8195bc0c 910d19d2 56cfa64c 1f3fbcd0 9d4298fd 2edf919f 230e035e 4a11b3f1
    6a0a5ca2 ca14752f dec12729 39657256 b074eff3 87e97309 e3cb5ab5 3e975434
    113119cd 1c0314d5 a33b893f 80dce9c6 a81dab21 9b3fd4e2 066e3834 f302c091
    a04d0701 66e8201c f3d013cf 6011bd54 85c4104c ba3a9514 ccb6d662 f774ca02
    Validity: [From: Wed Feb 04 11:13:30 GMT 2004,
                   To: Tue May 04 11:13:30 GMT 2004]
    Issuer: CN=Joyce Stack, OU=Digisoft, O=Digisoft, L=Cork, ST=Cork, C=IE
    SerialNumber: [    4020d3da]
    Algorithm: [SHA1withDSA]
    Signature:
    0000: 30 2E 02 15 00 92 12 A2 F2 12 5A A2 EE 3A 11 8D 0.........Z..:..
    0010: 09 7A 68 1A 04 49 AE 73 DE 02 15 00 8A D4 5E 9A .zh..I.s......^.
    0020: C6 25 B5 23 BB A4 CB 46 78 8B F3 D8 9C 11 0B D0 .%.#...Fx.......
    Found trusted certificate:
    Version: V1
    Subject: CN=Joyce Stack, OU=Digisoft, O=Digisoft, L=Cork, ST=Cork, C=IE
    Signature Algorithm: SHA1withDSA, OID = 1.2.840.10040.4.3
    Key: Sun DSA Public Key
    Parameters:DSA
         p: fd7f5381 1d751229 52df4a9c 2eece4e7 f611b752 3cef4400 c31e3f80 b6512669
    455d4022 51fb593d 8d58fabf c5f5ba30 f6cb9b55 6cd7813b 801d346f f26660b7
    6b9950a5 a49f9fe8 047b1022 c24fbba9 d7feb7c6 1bf83b57 e7c6a8a6 150f04fb
    83f6d3c5 1ec30235 54135a16 9132f675 f3ae2b61 d72aeff2 2203199d d14801c7
         q: 9760508f 15230bcc b292b982 a2eb840b f0581cf5
         g: f7e1a085 d69b3dde cbbcab5c 36b857b9 7994afbb fa3aea82 f9574c0b 3d078267
    5159578e bad4594f e6710710 8180b449 167123e8 4c281613 b7cf0932 8cc8a6e1
    3c167a8b 547c8d28 e0a3ae1e 2bb3a675 916ea37f 0bfa2135 62f1fb62 7a01243b
    cca4f1be a8519089 a883dfe1 5ae59f06 928b665e 807b5525 64014c3b fecf492a
    y:
    8195bc0c 910d19d2 56cfa64c 1f3fbcd0 9d4298fd 2edf919f 230e035e 4a11b3f1
    6a0a5ca2 ca14752f dec12729 39657256 b074eff3 87e97309 e3cb5ab5 3e975434
    113119cd 1c0314d5 a33b893f 80dce9c6 a81dab21 9b3fd4e2 066e3834 f302c091
    a04d0701 66e8201c f3d013cf 6011bd54 85c4104c ba3a9514 ccb6d662 f774ca02
    Validity: [From: Wed Feb 04 11:13:30 GMT 2004,
                   To: Tue May 04 11:13:30 GMT 2004]
    Issuer: CN=Joyce Stack, OU=Digisoft, O=Digisoft, L=Cork, ST=Cork, C=IE
    SerialNumber: [    4020d3da]
    Algorithm: [SHA1withDSA]
    Signature:
    0000: 30 2E 02 15 00 92 12 A2 F2 12 5A A2 EE 3A 11 8D 0.........Z..:..
    0010: 09 7A 68 1A 04 49 AE 73 DE 02 15 00 8A D4 5E 9A .zh..I.s......^.
    0020: C6 25 B5 23 BB A4 CB 46 78 8B F3 D8 9C 11 0B D0 .%.#...Fx.......
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    DH Modulus: { 244, 136, 253, 88, 78, 73, 219, 205, 32, 180, 157, 228, 145, 7, 54, 107, 51, 108, 56, 13, 69, 29, 15, 124, 136, 179, 28, 124, 91, 45, 142, 246, 243, 201, 35, 192, 67, 240, 165, 91, 24, 141, 142, 187, 85, 140, 184, 93, 56, 211, 52, 253, 124, 23, 87, 67, 163, 29, 24, 108, 222, 51, 33, 44, 181, 42, 255, 60, 225, 177, 41, 64, 24, 17, 141, 124, 132, 167, 10, 114, 214, 134, 196, 3, 25, 200, 7, 41, 122, 202, 149, 12, 217, 150, 159, 171, 208, 10, 80, 155, 2, 70, 211, 8, 61, 102, 164, 93, 65, 159, 156, 124, 189, 137, 75, 34, 25, 38, 186, 171, 162, 94, 195, 85, 233, 47, 120, 199 }
    DH Base: { 2 }
    Server DH Public Key: { 141, 230, 60, 171, 152, 244, 227, 94, 165, 6, 166, 49, 28, 143, 106, 97, 130, 220, 0, 77, 153, 189, 151, 141, 253, 7, 162, 141, 32, 251, 80, 129, 8, 193, 79, 130, 240, 22, 21, 68, 185, 27, 253, 69, 190, 136, 9, 117, 147, 143, 193, 134, 226, 95, 62, 17, 17, 80, 34, 227, 229, 218, 173, 34, 3, 75, 29, 202, 89, 88, 220, 221, 96, 226, 160, 29, 79, 139, 242, 204, 223, 25, 255, 47, 196, 173, 40, 133, 234, 49, 161, 68, 208, 29, 67, 143, 7, 138, 124, 43, 60, 52, 12, 207, 247, 218, 36, 195, 237, 10, 251, 39, 87, 205, 42, 60, 175, 202, 168, 127, 142, 8, 218, 30, 241, 190, 62, 126 }
    Anonymous
    *** ServerHelloDone
    *** ClientDiffieHellmanPublic
    DH Public key: { 243, 101, 241, 11, 194, 68, 62, 212, 66, 86, 168, 117, 239, 154, 190, 75, 93, 94, 222, 53, 150, 202, 232, 200, 64, 174, 162, 89, 24, 144, 88, 235, 151, 92, 255, 22, 110, 49, 124, 214, 130, 196, 165, 129, 245, 100, 235, 61, 227, 50, 154, 78, 159, 83, 53, 227, 111, 228, 146, 72, 82, 180, 222, 181, 142, 156, 4, 90, 117, 193, 107, 144, 28, 201, 138, 10, 253, 232, 93, 197, 58, 181, 242, 65, 214, 131, 167, 143, 87, 162, 194, 26, 169, 116, 228, 142, 19, 217, 58, 38, 24, 225, 78, 139, 32, 6, 218, 128, 182, 242, 162, 237, 241, 231, 198, 87, 204, 253, 190, 153, 63, 198, 102, 18, 62, 190, 60, 133 }
    main, WRITE: TLSv1 Handshake, length = 134
    SESSION KEYGEN:
    PreMaster Secret:
    0000: 1B 0D FB 74 3D E0 23 74 BB 83 02 BD BF 14 E4 43 ...t=.#t.......C
    0010: 8D F7 1D 44 10 46 31 C4 BD BB 46 65 FD 97 BD 71 ...D.F1...Fe...q
    0020: 64 79 05 0D 44 B3 37 91 A6 11 77 B5 5E 02 79 A9 dy..D.7...w.^.y.
    0030: 7A 35 1D 4A E6 BF 9F 99 BD D9 2F B1 B0 B8 CB FC z5.J....../.....
    0040: 26 82 AA 93 EC 9A F7 B7 9A 67 A6 8F C7 60 68 96 &........g...`h.
    0050: 0B 5A C9 A4 B0 6B 95 50 56 82 54 CC C9 04 C4 03 .Z...k.PV.T.....
    0060: B3 E0 93 BB 60 B6 84 36 0F 3A 5E 27 23 B3 53 63 ....`..6.:^'#.Sc
    0070: E8 EC 41 5F 18 83 FD E6 BD 73 51 22 16 D5 93 6B ..A_.....sQ"...k
    CONNECTION KEYGEN:
    Client Nonce:
    0000: 40 4C 41 09 3D 3F EF 92 F3 E3 46 82 F2 96 CA CE @LA.=?....F.....
    0010: 05 17 07 69 0C 23 10 85 2D 16 90 44 E4 EF 23 0F ...i.#..-..D..#.
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    0000: 40 4C 41 09 91 50 C3 6D 7F B6 4C B5 D2 77 77 2C @LA..P.m..L..ww,
    0010: BB A5 AD 4B 03 5D 48 2D 0E 5A A8 5E 93 27 D0 D4 ...K.]H-.Z.^.'..
    Master Secret:
    0000: 7D A1 14 9A 48 7C ED 98 CF 3F D8 92 3C EE E5 05 ....H....?..<...
    0010: 05 BF 1A 8D 10 68 DC E2 A4 88 CF A4 AC FF 1D E2 .....h..........
    0020: E0 D4 FC F8 CB BA B8 7C B0 38 B2 BE 31 82 24 BC .........8..1.$.
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    0000: CB 03 D5 D7 1C C2 85 4C 5A 26 0D 24 82 B9 4D 81 .......LZ&.$..M.
    0010: D9 3B E6 86 .;..
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