Help! Tech Tool Scan shows failures

Tech Tool Deluxe show that Format Check failed, Directory Scan failed, Surface Scan was skipped and Volume Structure failed. Can someone help me understand what is going on and what I should do to fix these problems. I called Apple Support yesterday. The advisor told me to insert the install disk, go into Disk Utility and click repair and yet today when I put in the Tech Tool just to check if things were working properly, it showed the same issues are still happening.

I don't have a copy of TTD, so I'm not familiar with it, but were you just scanning from problems, or did you try to have TTD repair the issues? Did you have Disk Utility repair the disk as instructed? If repairs are failing with both TTD and DU, then your drive may be in the process of failing, or it may be so badly corrupted that it can't be repaired. In the former case, you will simply have to replace the drive. In the latter, repartitioning it with Disk Utility and then reinstalling the system and all your data may bring it back to life.
Note that your first order of business regardless should be ensuring that you have a good set of backups (a minimum of two backups). See my [Mac Backup Guide|http://www.reedcorner.net/guides/backups>.

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    # 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 26717 -
    # 3 Short offline Completed without error 00% 26717 -
    # 4 Short offline Completed without error 00% 26717 -
    # 5 Short offline Completed without error 00% 26716 -
    # 6 Short offline Completed without error 00% 26715 -
    # 7 Short offline Completed without error 00% 26714 -
    # 8 Short offline Completed without error 00% 26697 -
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    #19 Short offline Completed: read failure 20% 26643 296909
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    #21 Short offline Completed without error 00% 26618 -
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    2 0 0 Not_testing
    3 0 0 Not_testing
    4 0 0 Not_testing
    5 0 0 Not_testing
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    Hi, never "Optimize" a drive before Repairing it AND having a backup clone to boot from.
    I assume I'll have to erase the HD and reinstall data from the Stellar Pheonix collection, hoping that it's all intact.
    No, I don't think you want an erase at all, you want a freah external drive to recover to first off.

  • Problems restarting from C drive with Tech Tools 3.0.4 -OS 10.4.7

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    But my question is, if this is a compatibility issue then why doesnt EVERYONE who bought my computer and got the TechTools disk from apple having the same problem?? I don't understand why they would send me a disk that was useless to me. Shouldn't someone know that this disk is supposedly incompatible??
    I agree that it reduces the value of the TTD disk substantially, TrtlAtak.
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  • Help! iMac hard drive failure No Backups

    I bought iMac in 2011 and worked perfectly fine until 4 days ago. The first sign was everything became so slow. Every task took about 2 minutes to finish or the mouse cursor spinning forever. Then I started reboosting the system. The problem remained. The following day, I tried to turn on the iMac. However, within 10 seconds, it shut itself down. I tried reboosting on and off for a few more times. Exactly the same thing happend. I haven't done anything to iMac. I mainly use it for surfing on Internet, listening to itune or using iphotos.
    Then I realized, since I bought iMac, I never used time machine or external drive to set up the backup files. I was stupifiied that I never thought about it because I secretely believed that iMac will never have hard drive problem on me. I never even had such problems in all my precious PCs. All my files from my previous PCs are in iMac as well as saved word documents, photos, and videos. It would be the worst thing in my life if I lose all of these files including files that have sentimental values.
    I already made appointment with apple store genius bar. But while anxiously waiting for the appointment, I wonder if anyone could tell me a solution to recover all my files in iMac.
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    This depends entirely on the nature of the failure or if there even has been a disk failure as opposed to a system failure.
    You might try reinstalling Snow Leopard:
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    1. Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions
    Boot from your Snow Leopard Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list.  In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive.  If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer.
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    Download and install Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1.
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    If you stop using the drive it's possible to recover deleted files that have not been overwritten by using recovery software such as Data Rescue II, File Salvage or TechTool Pro.  Each of the preceding come on bootable CDs to enable usage without risk of writing more data to the hard drive.  Two free alternatives are Disk Drill and TestDisk.  Look for them and demos at MacUpdate or CNET Downloads.
    The longer the hard drive remains in use and data are written to it, the greater the risk your deleted files will be overwritten.
    Also visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQ on Data Recovery.
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  • Is there an HTML help authoring tool for LV?

    Ideally one tool fits all, LabView, C# and MSVC++.
    I know RoboHelp is a good tool for non-LV languages, does any one know other good tools? Thanks

    The standard Common User Access (CUA) states that the key F1 will open help. Unfortunatly you cannot associate this key with a help file and topic as you can in other development systems.
    On windows systems the behaviour seem to be common with what I have tested with MS Outlook, MS Internet explorer, LV and my favourite Help authouring tool (HAT). All open the default topic of the help file.
    On IBMs AS /400, now iSeries, F1 will open a window which depends on the field where the cursor is. On GUI system this is related to the control who has the key focus. If the cursor is outside any field a help window explaining the current screen will be opened.
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    The other way of context sensitiv help is Shift-F1. This works different in different applications. MS Outlook will open a popup window depending on the part where the mouse cursor is. MS IE will open the default topic of the help. My HAT will change the cursor and when you click somewhere you get a corresponding popup window. LV will ignore this key. The best way LV has for that is the "Tip" or "Tip Strip".
    I think that NI will not make a new property to VIs and controls containing help file information and to associate the F1 key with that properties because you can connect F1 to a control using Key Navigation. This is another method of providing help. Place a control outside the visible aera and connect it with F1 using key navigation. This way you can open a help file with a topic with the context sensitivity of the window.
    Another thing I have to comment is that why will you use HTML files instead of HTML based help (Win98, this is the same help LV uses)? If you have a medium sized application you will have to be careful to deploy a lot of files (more than 30 I would expect, 1 for ech topic and two or three for the frame, navigation and table of contents). You have to take into concern various browsers (4 Versions of MS IE, some versions of Netscape, some versions of Opera) with various versions of JavaScript if you will use a dynamic table of contents. And you will loose such things like Search and Favourites. Win98-Help looks always the same because there is only one viewer installed with every Windows and there are no third party products doing some things different. The only answer I would really accept is you are not on a windows platform.
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    Waldemar
    Using 7.1.1, 8.5.1, 8.6.1, 2009 on XP and RT
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