HELP! Updating to Tiger from Jaguar

I have a G4 used as a server for our company. This morning I was updating the system to OS 10.4 from 10.3. The installation went though and restarted the machine. It got to the Welcome to Mac screen but beyond that it got to the blue screen with the spinning colored ball and won't go beyond that. Even restarting it won't go beyond the colored ball. What do I do?
Linda

Boot an OSX install disk and run its Disk Utility. Run Disk Repair then Permissions Fix.

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OSX Tiger from Jaguar

I have an imac G3 600Mhz (2001) that is rated for use with up to OSX 10.4.11 (Tiger) and currently runs 10.2.8 - it has the latest firmware (4.1.9) and a DVD drive and is ready. Per other posts, an upgrade from Jaguar to Tiger is possible and will work, however, I'm confused when it comes to picking an appropriate upgrade DVD in the general marketplace, as everything comes with warnings and caveats about compatibility, and pretty much no ad for upgrade DVDs references the imac G3 specifically (nor would I expect them to since G3s never came built with Tiger).
If I see an ad listing OSX 10.4.11 upgrade, can I assume it works, or are there some other parameters that I need to validate (build dates, look for something that works on a G4 etc etc etc)?
Thanks, D
P.S. I can't believe it's that complex, but it seems like it might be. Maybe it's that Apple did sell a generic, retail packaged DVD that would basically upgrade ANYTHING legitimate, but that other resellers are marketing machine-specific (non-retail) copies (kinda like there are OEM system system restore bundles for Intel machines)?

Hello,
Upgrade discs normally upgrade only one version, say 10.3.x to 10.4.x, usually issued to Mac buyers that bought a Mac 2 to 4 weeks before introduction of the later OSX version.
You need a Retail version, not the Gray Discs.
Tiger Requirements...
To use Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, your Macintosh needs:
    * A PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor
    * Built-in FireWire
    * At least 256 MB of RAM (I recommend 1GB minimum)
    * DVD drive (DVD-ROM), Combo (CD-RW/DVD-ROM) or SuperDrive (DVD-R) for installation
    * At least 3 GB of free disk space; 4 GB if you install the XCode 2 Developer Tools (I recommend 20GB minimum)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1514
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=mac+os+x+tiger+retail+10.4
See Tom's, (Texas Mac Man), great info on where/how to find/get Tiger...
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15305521#15305521
Or Ali Brown's great info on where/how to find/get Tiger...
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10381710#10381710

Need help reverting to Tiger from Leopard

Last last year I purchased a new iMac that came with Tiger (version 10.4.10) installed. I set it up and everything worked great, including the wireless. Unfortunately, it also came with a Leopard install disk in the box, and, not realizing that Leopard is Apple's equivalent of Vista, I "upgraded" the machine to Leopard. My wireless has not worked well since, and, after waiting for several Leopard updates to "solve" the problem without apparent success, I think I just want to revert back to Tiger.
I was thinking the best thing to do is an Erase and Install using the 10.4.10 install disks that came with the computer. However, I believe that when I "upgraded" to Leopard, Mail 3 modified the mail format used by Mail 2, and similarly with Address Book. So my primary question is how to get my mail and address information back to Tiger. Does anyone know if I archive off my mailboxes from Leopard's Mail 3 in mbox format, will I then be able to successfully import them back into Tiger's Mail 2? Similarly, can I export Leopard Address Book information into vcards and then read them back into Tiger's Address Book? Or are there better ways of doing this?
Thanks in advance!

I have looked through and posted to the Leopard "Getting Online and Networking" forum for months now looking for a solution. I really don't want to go through the "it's the router's fault" discussion anymore with the posters who want to blame everybody but Apple for something that obviously showed up in Leopard. This includes those who somehow believe that only Apple implements the standards correctly and the rest of the world doesn't, so the rest of the world is at fault.
I am just hoping someone who has some knowledge about reverting can answer my original questions in this post about getting e-mail and address book information back into Tiger from Leopard.

Help reverting to Tiger from Leopard - No boot from CD

Hi there,
I am trying to revert to Tiger from Leopard on an Intel iMac that used to run Tiger. My plan is to wipe the drive and start fresh. Unfortunately, the computer will no longer start up from the Tiger installer DVD or an extrenal drive running Tiger. I am running 10.5.2. Has there been a ROM upgrade or something that prevents now Tiger from running? Any ideas?

Can I please ask a question.
I have leopard (10.5.2) installed on an intel Imac. I have just bought a Formac mini disk (160G USB) because I would like to install Tiger on it. When I bought the Imac it originally came with Tiger (Version 10.4.2) and the disk from what I am reading on these forums would indicate that it is a install disk rather than a retail version. The disk is grey and again I am assuming it is an intel install disk (don't know how to check).
Anyhow, in order to install Tiger onto the USB mini disk, I believe I need to boot up the from Tiger install disk and after the start chime begins hold down the 'C' button from some time until the Tiger install menu appears. My problem is that the Tiger install menu does not appear (tried this on several occasions) and it continues to boot up to Leopard.
Can someone please tell me if I am doing something wrong, or even what I am trying to do is able to be done. I think I have covered and put down all of the problems here ?
Appreciate any advice

Help updating to Tiger

Ok...I'm still running on version 10.2.8. This is my first computer (eMac) and I guess I never really realized how important it is to do these updates. Anyway...I asked about updating a few months ago and here is the advice I was given at that time:
To upgrade directly to Tiger you need to purchase the Tiger DVD. You do not need your Jaguar installation CD. While waiting on your Tiger DVD you should make a bootable backup of your hard drive to an external Firewire drive.
When you receive the Tiger DVD do the following:
Open Disk Utility from your Utilities folder on your startup drive. Select your startup volume from the list on the left, then click on the First Aid tab in the DU main window. Click on the Repair Permissions button.
Then do the following:
Boot from the Tiger DVD. After the installer loads select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (or Utilities menu if using Tiger.) After DU loads select your OS X volume from the list on the left, click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported, then quit DU and return to the installer. If the hard drive is OK, then proceed to install Tiger. When you reach the phase for selecting the target or destination drive, click on your startup drive, then click on the Options button. Select the Upgrade option and click on OK.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (3.0.3 for Tiger) and/or TechTool Pro (4.0.6 for Tiger) to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
Do not attempt to upgrade to Tiger unless the hard drive is verified as OK per the above instructions.
So I finally just purchased the Tiger Install Discs. I followed his instructions and of course there were unfixable errors. So according to this guy I need to buy another disc to fix the errors or "reformat the drive and reinstall OS X."
Two questions:
1. If I buy one of those discs do I have to have the latest versions that he mentioned? Or can I get older versions (DiscWarrior 3.0.2, for example).
2. What exactly does it mean to reformat the drive? I don't know how to do that. And will I need my original install disc? Because I can't find it...
Help!
Thanks!
eMac Mac OS X (10.2.x)

OK, you did make a bootable backup, or clone, of your hard drive, right? It must be a clone.
As scb said you can boot from your external HD, load Disk Warrior on that and run the repairs from there. DW is expensive but well worth having.
If you don't want to get it then make sure your backup is up to date, then start up off your Tiger install disk and for install options choose Erase and Install. This will wipe your hard drive clean (which is why backup is so important), and install a fresh, sparkling new system. This pretty much solves any and all problems.
When you boot from your hard drive for the first time it will take you through some basic setup things, what you want to keep an eye out for is when it asks you if you want to use Migration Assistant. Say yes and follow instructions, it's pretty simple. You will select your backup clone (it must be a clone) and it will move all your applications, settings and files over to the new Tiger system. Go and have some coffee, it will take a while.
After that Repair Permissions with Disk Utility, then download the full upgrade to 10.4.6. The install disk will either be 10.4 or 10.4.3 so you will need to upgrade. After restarting Repair Permissions again.
You should be good to go. If you run into any problems you'll still have your old system on the external and can boot from that if needed, but with an erased drive you should have no problems. If you do the most likely culprit will be apps that need to be upgraded to Tiger versions.

Help upgrading to Tiger from OS 9.2

Okay. I have a PowerBook G4 (400) with 512 MB of RAM and 20GB of disk space running OS 9.2.2. I've updated the Firmware and am attempting to upgrade to Tiger with install disks that I received with my new G5 tower.
After selecting the language, I'm getting an alert that says "This software can not be installed on this computer." What am I missing? Can I not upgrade with these install disks?
G5, PowerBook G4, G3 Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Hi paristhena;
May I welcome you to the Apple Discussion Forums.
Besides being illegal, the install disks for a G5 tower are specific for that hardware and don't have the drivers necessary for the PowerBook.
Allan

Upgrading from Jaguar to Tiger

Hello,
I'm hoping that some brilliant individual will be able to help me with this "situation." I am trying to upgrade a good family friend's eMac to Tiger from Jaguar 10.2.8 (technically they meet the Leopard requirements, but I think that Tiger would run better with the setup that they currently have). Like a good boy, I want to back up their hard drive before I upgrade. This is where the problems begin. They don't have an external hard drive and the cd/dvd drive is read only for dvds. I brought over my Iomega external drive, but it would not show up when I connected it to their computer, either with firewire or with USB (the system profiler recognized and knew what it was, but I could not access the drive anywhere - I'm not really sure why). The one backup program that I found that still worked with Jaguar could not recognize the external drive either and it would not let me backup to the internal drive. I don't really want to spend forever backing up their stuff onto cds. They have around 18 gigs of stuff on their hard drive, although not all of that needs to be saved. Target disc mode does not work between my model of macbook and the eMac according to Apple (I tried it - turns out they were right). Will the migration assistant work? I've thought of buying an external DVD burner, since I am interested in owning one myself. Is there one out there that will work with this eMac and my macbook? Any other ideas? A flash drive would work, but also would be tedious. I was hoping to be able to let a backup utility do its thing and not have to manually back-up this drive. Anyone?
Message was edited by: Clayek

At least with the eMac in FW TDM and attached with the correct cable
to the newer Intel-based Mac, you could use the optical drive in the
newer Mac to archive larger size files than with a CD-RW drive in eMac.
Few if any Jaguar-based items would really do all that well in Tiger;
and the few that could be OK (AppleWorks 6, etc) could be extracted
from the Jaguar-based original eMac install-restore disc set through
the use of the utility Pacifist in its demo mode and installed in Tiger.
For that much trouble, if one needed an office-like suite, get NeoOffice.
It does word-like stuff and spreadsheet, & so on; it's a free download.
The external drive may show up in the eMac's Disk Utility; if it does, that
may be a time to see if it can be partitioned and formatted for Mac. If not
already. The newer Macs may offer a different format than the eMac is
comfortable in using; since Intel-based Macs can use different schemes.
You could see if the external drive can be used by the Intel-Mac for moved
content from the FireWire TDM-booted eMac, to be archived on the external.
Anyway, sounds like fun. The easiest thing would be upgrading the eMac RAM.
(In Tiger, after upgrading to 10.4.11, be sure to get all the Java upgrades, the
last Security Update, Quicktime, new browsers, Adobe Shockwave + Flash,
Adobe Reader, and consider a few widgets such as iStat Pro, and DashQuit.
The OnyX version for Tiger is a good utility from Titanium Software, too.
The system discs which shipped with the Intel-based computer won't work in
the PPC computer; nor will other model's specific disc sets. You'd need retail 10.4.
Good luck & happy computing!

Just updated my mac from Tiger to Mountain Lion. Loaded Photoshop elements 11 (brand new in the box) and when I try to start it - it comes up saying - Licensing for the product has stopped working contact for help.

I just updated my mac from Tiger to Mountain Lion. wiped the computer clean and started fresh Loaded Photoshop elements 11 (brand new in the box) and when I try to start it - it comes up saying - Licensing for the product has stopped working contact for help. in Looking for help I was directed here. what do I do?

I don't know enough to not follow directions. I bought the software brand new in a sealed from factory box. Had it sitting around until - last week when I deleted flash on my computer and had to upgrade to the new OSX. Mountain Lion doesn't use iPhoto - so I had to go with something else. Since I already had this new - unopened package I opened it up. Shut down all running programs - inserted the disk and followed all the directions for installation. Still it didn't work.
I have now uninstalled it (the proper way) and am going to try again.
I appreciate your responses.
Thank you!
If this doesn't work - I am going to just buy Lightroom.

Best way to upgrade from Jaguar to Tiger?

I am upgrading from Jaguar 10.2.8 on my G4 DP1.25 machine to Tiger 10.4.3 and would like some advice on how to best do the upgrade before i start. This is my first time doing any real OS upgrade on my mac.
I used to do it all the time on my windows pc box and i'd always reformat the harddrive and start with a clean slate so to speak. That usually yeilded the best results for me. Should I start from scrtach on my mac as well or do the Archive and Install?
I am upgrading to Tiger so I can install latest version of Final Cut Production Suite and be able to take advantage of OS updates - so any thing that will help keep machine running clean and fast will help in the long run.
I have two internal drives and can make plenty of space to do backups if need be.
Thanks for any help you can offer! ~Matt
G4 DP1.25 Mac OS X (10.2.x)

Thanks for the comments thus far "scb".
I don;t have disk warrior or techtool or the like - should i just use the first aid on the install DVD for jaguar or tiger instead?
I have a lot of third-party software and utilities installed in jaguar - most probably aren't compatible with Tiger so would I be better to erase and install after I backup my data? I think i'd rather not have all this stuff get uselessly brought into the new install of Tiger. Fresh and clean is probably better in the long run right?
I'm just worried that i'll end up like a lot of other people in this forum with start-up or other problems after the upgrade. I don't think it will be a problem - the mac is pretty much a stock unit except for some software, an extra 120gb harddrive, and all the RAM is now third-party "Kingston brand" (my original apple ram died 1 week after warranty expired - argggg which caused me 3 days of discussion room surfing and a call to apple tech support to realize that i needed to go buy new RAM). All that to say i just want to be sure i do it right and don't get stuck having to spend many days/hours fixing problems... i'm a bit of a pesimist when it comes to upgrades.
Additional thoughts?

Upgrade from Jaguar to Tiger

Can I upgrade directly from Jaguar to Tiger or do I have to upgrade to Panther and them upgrade to Tiger. I was running Tiger, had issues and had to erase hard drive and do a reinstall with Jaguar as I could not load Tiger direct to my G3. Thanks

Hi MLM333!
If you were succesfully running Jaguar 10.2.x, chances are, your Firmware was already updated at some time.
Open your System Profiler.
Click on Hardware.
Do you see Boot ROM Version: 4.1.9f1?
If so, the Firmware is updated.
Also, you wrote "Tiger would not install I guess since there wasn't an earler version of X to upgrade."
Does the Tiger install DVD, that you used to upgrade, look like THIS ONE?
If not, that could be part of your problem. You may have upgrade or machine specific discs.
More info here Tip:Using OS X Install CDs/DVDs On Multiple Macs.
Good Luck!
ali b

Upgrading from jaguar to Tiger on an eMac

i am posting for a friend who was upgrading her eMac from jaguar to Tiger. she followed the directions that she was prompted to follow, got to the end of the installation and, as prompted, did the restart. when the computer rebooted, it never fully restarted. she just got the screen that we all get with the spinning wheel. it spun for about an hour. she rebooted, same thing. obviously something went wrong with the install. where does she go from here?
thanks.

If one of these steps solves the problems she need not go further, but she needs to learn how to backup her data.
1. Try restarting with nothing but Apple keyboard and mouse attached.
2. Try resetting the PRAM:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238
3. Try booting off the 10.4 installer DVD if it is a retail version using the Startup Manager:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106178
and go through the language selection screen and go to the Utilities menu and select Disk Utility. In the Disk Utility, select First Aid. Verify disk, and report back any errors to you. Repair permissions as well, and try restarting.
4. If her data is backed up, but she can't boot, she should do step 3 with a repair disk.
5. If repair disk does not work, she should get an external hard disk that is Firewire and see if should install 10.4 on it, and see the contents of the internal drive while booted off it using the aforementioned startup manager to boot. http://www.macsales.com/ sells such hard drives. If she can see the contents of the internal drive, she should backup her information if in step 3 she wasn't backed up. If she can't see it, she should use buy Prosoft Data Rescue to recover information to the external hard drive.
6. If she got usable data from step 5 onto the external hard drive, she should attempt to archive and install 10.4 on the internal drive with the external drive detached, and recover information from the external drive:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301270
7. If she was not able to get usable data on step 5, she should try Alsoft Disk Warrior to repair the internal drive.
If after all that she can't get usable data, I recommend she seek out a data recovery specialist if she didn't backup.
In the future she should always backup before updating, and follow these upgrade tips of mine:
http://www.macmaps.com/upgradefaq.html

Cant update TIGER from 10.4 to 10.4.2

Hello,
I downloaded the 10.4.2 update for Tiger and cant install it for a weird reason: not enough free space on the Hard drive... However Te installation program tells me that the update require 125MB, I have a hard drive of 235 GB with 194 GB available!!!! I ve tried Disk Utility/repair disk but cannot press repair disk as there are no errors detected... any thing I missed? Im so frustrated as the update was already an answer to a problem I had before, now I have a problem to setup the solution to my first problem... Is that the real mac world? I dont want to think so and therefore I thank you for your help!!!

DJ:is it on disk1 or disk2,I am not sure what Tiger install disk you are using. Tiger usually ships on 1 DVD or 4 CDs. However, if you are installing from CDs you should boot from Disk 1 holding down the "C" key until the grey apple with the spinning gear comes up. When booted, go to the Utilities Menu and open Disk Utility. Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in the left panel, and First Aid in the main panel. Click on Repair Disk. If errors are reported click on Repair again, and again until no errors are reported. If DU reports errors it cannot repair you will need to use a third party utility like Tech Tool Pro or Disk Warrior.
Post back with results or further questions.
Good luck.
cornelius

I have problem with account that i can't make update or buy from app store There is massage appear in my payment page that i must contact with i tunes support to complete this transaction Please help me to fixe this problem as soon possible Hany hassan 00

I have problem with account that i can't make update or buy from app store
There is massage appear in my payment page that i must contact with i tunes support to complete this transaction
Please help me to fixe this problem as soon possible
Hany hassan
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Thank you

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Hi..
I repled to you here > https://discussions.apple.com/message/25598596#25598596
Please do not start duplicate topics. It makes it that much harder to assist you.

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