Help updating to Tiger

Ok...I'm still running on version 10.2.8. This is my first computer (eMac) and I guess I never really realized how important it is to do these updates. Anyway...I asked about updating a few months ago and here is the advice I was given at that time:
To upgrade directly to Tiger you need to purchase the Tiger DVD. You do not need your Jaguar installation CD. While waiting on your Tiger DVD you should make a bootable backup of your hard drive to an external Firewire drive.
When you receive the Tiger DVD do the following:
Open Disk Utility from your Utilities folder on your startup drive. Select your startup volume from the list on the left, then click on the First Aid tab in the DU main window. Click on the Repair Permissions button.
Then do the following:
Boot from the Tiger DVD. After the installer loads select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (or Utilities menu if using Tiger.) After DU loads select your OS X volume from the list on the left, click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported, then quit DU and return to the installer. If the hard drive is OK, then proceed to install Tiger. When you reach the phase for selecting the target or destination drive, click on your startup drive, then click on the Options button. Select the Upgrade option and click on OK.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (3.0.3 for Tiger) and/or TechTool Pro (4.0.6 for Tiger) to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
Do not attempt to upgrade to Tiger unless the hard drive is verified as OK per the above instructions.
So I finally just purchased the Tiger Install Discs. I followed his instructions and of course there were unfixable errors. So according to this guy I need to buy another disc to fix the errors or "reformat the drive and reinstall OS X."
Two questions:
1. If I buy one of those discs do I have to have the latest versions that he mentioned? Or can I get older versions (DiscWarrior 3.0.2, for example).
2. What exactly does it mean to reformat the drive? I don't know how to do that. And will I need my original install disc? Because I can't find it...
Help!
Thanks!
eMac Mac OS X (10.2.x)

OK, you did make a bootable backup, or clone, of your hard drive, right? It must be a clone.
As scb said you can boot from your external HD, load Disk Warrior on that and run the repairs from there. DW is expensive but well worth having.
If you don't want to get it then make sure your backup is up to date, then start up off your Tiger install disk and for install options choose Erase and Install. This will wipe your hard drive clean (which is why backup is so important), and install a fresh, sparkling new system. This pretty much solves any and all problems.
When you boot from your hard drive for the first time it will take you through some basic setup things, what you want to keep an eye out for is when it asks you if you want to use Migration Assistant. Say yes and follow instructions, it's pretty simple. You will select your backup clone (it must be a clone) and it will move all your applications, settings and files over to the new Tiger system. Go and have some coffee, it will take a while.
After that Repair Permissions with Disk Utility, then download the full upgrade to 10.4.6. The install disk will either be 10.4 or 10.4.3 so you will need to upgrade. After restarting Repair Permissions again.
You should be good to go. If you run into any problems you'll still have your old system on the external and can boot from that if needed, but with an erased drive you should have no problems. If you do the most likely culprit will be apps that need to be upgraded to Tiger versions.

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panic.log:
Description: Panic (system crashes) log
Size: 14.55 KB
Last Modified: 2/23/07 2:22 AM
Location: /Library/Logs/panic.log
Recent Contents: ...
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dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily(1.4.9)@0x529000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily(1.5)@0x43f000
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireSerialBusProtocolTransport(1.4.4)@0x885000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireSBP2(1.7.5)@0x86f000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily(1.4.9)@0x529000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily(2.2.5)@0x82c000
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireSBP2(1.7.5)@0x86f000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily(2.2.5)@0x82c000
com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily(1.5)@0x43f000
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily(1.4.9)@0x529000
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dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily(2.2.5)@0x82c000
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily(2.2.5)@0x82c000
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PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)
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com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIReducedBlockCommandsDevice(1.4.9)@0x94f000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily(1.4.9)@0x529000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily(1.5)@0x43f000
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireSerialBusProtocolTransport(1.4.4)@0x885000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireSBP2(1.7.5)@0x86f000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily(1.4.9)@0x529000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily(2.2.5)@0x82c000
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dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily(2.2.5)@0x82c000
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dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily(2.2.5)@0x82c000
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Exception state (sv=0x2088E000)
PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)
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