Help! Upgraded to Tiger 10.4.0 to 10.4.11 and my wifi is broken!!
Dudes,
Just installed Tiger on my iBook G3 500mhz. All went fine. Wifi working fine.
The I performed Software Update and installed 10.4.11 - and now my wifi is completely broken. It doesn't even recognise the 10-15 other networks in my locality.
Have tried:
Turning Airport on and off
Restarting Airport Express and Modem
Restarting iBook.
No joy. Please help - I'm desperate, as it's for a present, and I only have until tomorrow to fix it!
Cheers,
JC
Update:
Just remembered Software Update installed a couple of other updates at the same time as 10.4.11 - one was an iTunes one for phone compatibility - not sure what the other one was though. Maybe Quicktime? Maybe Java? Security? Possibly an Airport update, but I'm by no means certain. Thought it worth mentioning.
Message was edited by: johnnycakes
Try repairing permissions with Applications -> Utilities -> Disk Utility.
If you are running any third party optimization software, disable all of it.
If your hard drive is over 85% full (this number is arbitrary), backup, and empty some of it.
If after that and a reboot, and a zap of PRAM you can't get your WiFi working, try deleting all preferred networks from your system preferences, and adding back your wifi network you connect to most often. If that does not work, try getting the 10.4.11 PowerPC combo update, and repair permissions again after installing.
If that does not work to solve your problem, is the Airport Express showing a green light?
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