HELP White Balance Tint Shift

My white balance brick produces a severe color shift. This just started yesterday after the ProApp 5.1 update. When I make an adjustment in the white balance brick the tint slider is all the way to the right (magenta) and shows a slight green tint. When I set the tint to 0 everything goes green. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with no success. I'm just about at my last try with this program. I love everything about AP3 but I don't think I can take much more of all the issues. If anyone can offer some support I would greatly appreciate it.

This is a new version, I have never used Aperture before I've been a LR user. I'm certain I'm looking is the correct location, below are the only Plist items that are in the following location <USER>/Library/Application Support/Aperture/
Adjustment Chain
Export
FileFolder
FileNaming
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filippodallosso wrote:
I have exactly the same problem. The reply is to your question is not what you were asking, isnt it?
The point is that we CAN NOT adjust the white balance as suggested, because the sliders are already at their maximum value when we open the photo in camera raw. We'd need to further increase the tint value (as the photo looks green) but it is by default at 150, so we cannot increase it further.
One way to overcome the limitation of the tint/temp sliders is to save an intermediate tiff or psd file. You can open it in ACR and apply the same maximal slider correction.
For the same purpose, instead of saving an intermediate file, I opened the raw file in the editor. From there, I used the Editinacr script in Elements+ to reopen the layer in ACR (shift f3 and script selection). Same corrections and back as a new layer in the editor. I could repeat the process several times to get a very powerful correction without intermediate files.

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Been searching on this, found a few things, but nothing helpful.
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This may come as a surprise to many, but here I am requesting your help, instead of giving it.
I have filled out a feature request with the following content, already some time ago:
Would it not be nice to be able to extract the WB settings in K from the metadata and be able in post to change it to what you should have done during the shoot.
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Interface similar to the scale slider and fully keyframeable. The program monitor should reflect changes in color temperature immediately. Simple, easy to understand, like using a set of Warm Cards after the shoot.
Retrieval of the color temperatures should not be difficult. It is contained in the metadata:
It works both with AWB and manual for the XF series. If the camera does not record these data, the effect should be greyed out.
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If you agree with me, please fill out a similar feature request. The more requests made, the greater the chance of it being implemented.
See Feature Request Form

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So again, while you can get in the ballpark with certain regimes, when it comes time to finish, you have to trust your eyes.
So, for my situation, it's not something that rises to the level of something I'd use enough to warrant a feature request.
My biggest issue today is that I'd love to see Pr offering bottom-up rendering, the way Avid MC offers it with its Render All option vs. Smart Rendering, which is top down. I don't like that I have to re-render entire sequences just because I made a little change to an upper layer clip. That, to me, warrants a concerted campaign or pitchfork mob.
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--- •• WORKING WHITE BALANCE FOR YELLOW TINT Z1 ••

Hello Guys,
I'm here to bring some HOPE for those users who won, I mean who got Z1 from the lottery yellow tint issue. I am an XDA user since then and I found a thread saying that the Japanese version of Xperia Z1 SO-01F got white balance settings yesterday and the OP ported it to our Z1 C69xx !
I installed it and CONFIRMED ITS WORKING. Results are farm different from Screen Adjuster app from playstore and such where blue is really noticeably. Navigation bar also changes using this. Although I'm wondering why it has different sliders compared to those on Xperia Z (Hue and Saturation), it will give you a peace of mind that the nightmare has ended.
Here are some screenies:
You need to be ROOTED to have this, no other way. It's flashable through CWM but if you are just ROOTED and doesn't have CWM installed, you can just push the files to the folders and change permissions. (tell me if you need help on this one)
Here's the original thread with the download link from XDA :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572080
If you're an XDA member, don't forget to hit THANKS to him. Don't forget to give Kudos and / or mark the correct answer
It would be much better still if Sony will provide an official solution for this headache issue.
Reply with results you got or problems you encountered installing, Ill help. That's all. Enjoy.
Solved!
Go to Solution.

Yes, we will add a setting for white balance in an upcoming version of the phones software planned for the beginning of next year (see my response here: http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z1/Xperia-Z1-C6903-Display-Issue-Yellow-Hue-Tint/td-p/391521/pa...).
I don't have any Japanese unit so i can't confirm if it has been added there already and what it looks like though.
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White balance shifting when importing raw files

When I import my raw files from my 5D mark 2 my white balance is set to 5200K, when in Lightroom it shifts to 4850K? Any body know why?

If there are no import presets being applied from the import pane, there's one other way this could be happening. If you're taking advantage of the ability to adjust LR's default import presets (NOT the same as what user web-weaver is talking about which is configured through the import panel) and you accidentally captured a setting other than "as shot" while making the changes, then this is likely your culprite.
This feature is fantastic for automatically applying ISO-specific NR to each file on import, but it can also catch other settings you may not have intended while configuring it. Go back to the files you originally used to set the defaults for each individual ISO, reset the WB to "as shot," and set defaults again. The menu option for this only appears in the develop module. Menu: Develop -> Set Default Settings...
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Are you saying you've lost the "Basic" tool tab?
If yes, just right-click on one of the other tabs and select "Basic" from the context menu that's presented.

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robwouds:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. Must be a hidden keyboard combination for temperature and tint. Not sure if the user can set different settings of each that the keystrokes will take you thru. Just hit the reset button in the Adjust pane to get it back to normal.
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Hi,
Photosohop newb here, still using CS3 (10.0), so please be patient.
I was at a convention not long ago, where I took lots of pictures with my phone. I only noticed at home, that a few of the pictures came out with an intense blue cast because of a bad white balance setting (I must have accidentally changed it).
I was trying to fix the image for the last 2 hours, with no real luck. I tried everything under Image -> Adjustments -> "Auto Color", "Color Levels" and "Match Color", moving the sliders up and down to get the best match. The best I could come up with was still far away from the other pictures I took the same day.
Here is one of the bad pictures: http://imgur.com/vw12aTQ
And here is one I took just a minute later with the "normal" setting: http://imgur.com/RMFm7fo
I actually got a pretty good match by cutting out some of the cobblestones from both pictures and using "Match Color" -> "Source", but I couldn't apply this technique to the whole picture.
Could somebody please help me to make the colors of the first picture similar to the second one?
Thank you,
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Here's an easy fix...
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Quick Help Please!!!!... White balance 6 HD Cameras

Hey guys/gals (I only have 2 hours before I ship out)... I have an important gig tonight shooting a live event. I have 6 cameras all at different distances to the stage. The stage is reasonable and evenly lit. How should I white balance all of these cameras (Sony FX-1s and Z1Us)?
I want to use the manual White Balance in the cameras so they all have the same color temperature instead of 'auto' mode? What I realized today (which I hope I'm wrong) is that I'll have these cameras set up at different distances, they will all have to zoom in at different focal lengths (which effects the f-stops as well) to reach the White Card on the stage for the Manual White Balance. Should I White Balance the cameras this way? Will all the cameras have a slightly different White Blance due to the different Focal length?
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2 cameras will have a tight shot all night, 2 cameras will be a tight to medium shot and the last 2 will be medium to wide.
Sorry if I'm overreacting (slap me if so please), it's an important gig to me and the first time I did this gig over a year ago I had to do a big of color correction depending on the shot/camera.
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Good on ya for taking the time to learn to do this beforehand but I may have done some testing first.
TheMonty wrote:
Will all the cameras have a slightly different White Blance due to the different Focal length?
Probably not although you'll have a flare imbalance between the cameras due to the different focal lengths. No two cameras, not even the same model, will ever white balance exactly like the other, there will always be minute differences. You will also want to black balance all your cameras as well.
However, white/black balance is a small part of the imaging pie. In reality you'd really want to chart these cameras with a [DSC Labs Chrome do Monde|http://www.dsclabs.com/chromadumonde.htm] as a simple white balance will not address differences in flare/gamma balance, or inequities in the white clipper channels. When you chart a camera you null out all the variances in the r,g,b channels which creates a better white balance over all.
The color section of the Chrome du Monde helps match the color matrices of your video cameras, something else a simple white/black balance will not do.
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