Help with color management ...

Hi,
I have a brand new canon 5D MKII, brand new Canon ipf6100 and brand new Lightroom 3 running on brand new Win7/64. Can anyone currently using this combo please tell me what camera and printer color space you're using with happy results and whether you are using 8 or 16 bit processing? I'm getting that magenta cast probably from driver and lightroom conflicts. I'm using 24" rolls of "Satin" 300 Gsm (heavyweight) but since Canon are up to their old tricks of using different names for the same paper, I'm using the "Semi-Gloss" profile. TIA for any input whatsoever.
Brian

Hi,
Yes, it's all Canon paper and ink.
Brian

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Need help with color management

I am looking for someone to help me. Please!
I am looking for help with Photoshop/printer not printing correct colors.
I have: Windows 7, Photoshop CS5, Photoshop Elements, HP Pavillion Laptop, new Okidata C530dn color laser printer
Previously I had a Canon Pixma MP620 and a gentleman from another forum gave me the correct settings for printing on photo paper and colors were perfect. I now have a OKIdata C530dn color laser and have started a business printing business cards and greeting cards, etc., and I do advertisements on a freelance basis.
I will be working a lot with cardstock or cover stock 65-110 lbs paper. I have an old OKIdata 2024e at work, and the colors are much better with that printer than my new personal one. I have tried matching the settings of that printer to mine to no avail. I have finally gotten the color close, but not quite. When I print on my Canon injet the colors match and print perfectly.
I have tried every setting variation that I can think of to get the color correct with my new OKIdata. I have to get the colors correct or my new business will go under because I can't match colors for my customers. I am a self taught Photoshoper and a novice so please bear with me.
Using Okidata PCL. Also have PS
Color settings in Photoshop:
North America General Purpose 2
sRGB 2.1
U.S. Web Coated Swop v2
Dot gain 20 %
Dot gain 20 %
Preserve embeded profile
Preserve embeded profile
Preserve embeded profile
engine: Adobe (ACE)
Relative Colormetric
Tried RGB color mode and CMYK color mode, no difference
Printer settings:
Photoshop manages colors
sRGB 2.1 Printer profile
Relative Colormetric
Print setup:
Letter
Multipurpose tray
Weight: printer settings-default (when I used heavy setting for cardstock it printed green instead of the color light blue, so that was a start to the right color)
Job Options:
Hight Quality
Color: No color matching
Printer preferences in Printer properties:
Color management
Device: Display 1 generic PnP monitor AMD M88og with ATI Mobility Radeon HD4200
ICC Profiles: Generic PnP Monitor (default)
Advanced:
Windows Color System Defaults:
everything under this tab is set at System Default
I have gotten the color close, but colors are dull. I have tried an adjustment layer and setting the saturation higher, but that doesn't help. I know my laptop is showing the right colors, (calibrated) because I am still printing to the Canon with cardstock and the colors are perfect using the same settings above.
Tried printing in PSE and it gave me an error that it was not a post script printer. Installed ps driver, still getting errors and it wouldn't print.
I would appreciate any help you could give me before I run out of toner and have to buy the expensive toners, or just slit my wrists j/k LOL
Thanks! JS

You need an ICC profile for your printer. Chromix has an excellent service at http://www2.chromix.com/colorvalet/ which will do this calibration for you. You download some software they provide, then print a test file on the exact same paper you are using for your cards. Then send the output to them and they will calibrate the colors with their equipment and send you the ICC profile file. Once you have it, you'll be able to print accurate colors.
There are other services out there that may cost less, but I do not know how reputable they are. Chromix is a good business I've worked with many times.
If you are trying to run a business and you don't understand color management yet, you may be in for a lot of trouble. Please get the book "Real World Color Management" available at http://www.colorremedies.com/realworldcolor/ and it will save you a ton of money and headaches.

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I am using Firefox under Fedora 14 Linux. I added the color management addon and told it which profile to use. But I am having some trouble telling if it is working. One problem is that when I use firefox to open an image file on my machine, it gives me the choice of using Image Viewer or Other. Image viewer is Eye Of Gbnome, which doesn't make use of my monitor profile, and I can't think of a convenient other program to use which does use the monitor profile.
Is there some way to get firefox to view the image directly.
I presume when I view images at a distant website, the color managment add-on is inter posing my monitor profile, but I am not sure about that. Is ther e some way to check it?

You need an ICC profile for your printer. Chromix has an excellent service at http://www2.chromix.com/colorvalet/ which will do this calibration for you. You download some software they provide, then print a test file on the exact same paper you are using for your cards. Then send the output to them and they will calibrate the colors with their equipment and send you the ICC profile file. Once you have it, you'll be able to print accurate colors.
There are other services out there that may cost less, but I do not know how reputable they are. Chromix is a good business I've worked with many times.
If you are trying to run a business and you don't understand color management yet, you may be in for a lot of trouble. Please get the book "Real World Color Management" available at http://www.colorremedies.com/realworldcolor/ and it will save you a ton of money and headaches.

Is there a Java utility class to help with data management in a desktop UI?

Is there a Java utility class to help with data management in a desktop UI?
I am writing a UI to configure a network device that will be connected to the serial port of the computer while it is being configured. There is no web server or database for my application. The UI has a large number of fields (50+) spread across 16 tabs. I will write the UI in Java FX. It should run inside the browser when launched, and issue commands to the network device through the serial port. A UI has several input fields spread across tabs and one single Submit button. If a field is edited, and the submit button clicked, it issues a command and sends the new datum to the device, retrieves current value and any errors. so if input field has bad data, it is indicated for example, the field has a red border.
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someone recommended JGoodies Bindings for Swing - will this work well and in FX?

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I need help with color pallette in iPhoto 11. I have created a book and would like to use a different color background than those given in "background." I have found the color palettes but can't seem to incorporate them into my backgrounds palette.

I need help with color pallette in iPhoto 11. I have created a book and would like to use a different color background than those given in "background." I have found the color palettes but can't seem to incorporate them into my backgrounds palette.

That is not a feature of iPhoto - suggest to Apple - iPhoto Menu ==> provide iPhoto feedback.
Additionally I have no idea what you are saying here
I have found the color palettes but can't seem to incorporate them into my backgrounds palette.
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Photoshop Help | Printing with color management in Photoshop CS6

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This is usually done in the printer driver's console.
What make/model printer do you have?
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Issue with Color Management and Print Module

The is a repost per request from a comment on Julieanne Kost's blog...
Having sticky output settings can be useful but now that LR has a color managed workflow, it introduces some problems. For example, if a Proof Copy is created and edited to a particular profile, then that copy is taken into the Print Module, if the output profile that has “stuck” from the previous job does not match you have a problem. It would be nice if the behavior for proof copies would be to automatically match the editing profile or at least warn of a mismatch. And while it is nice to be able to create a Saved Print with all the output parameters, it would be helpful to be able to create saved sets of “Print Job” settings assuming that they will be consistent for a particular printer/ink/paper combination (and whatever “Print Adjustment” you have found to your liking) then easily applied to any image being prepared for output. Perhaps a “save setting” selection under the “Print to:” menu.

So what you propose is the templates are proof copy sensitive and if they are setup for profile A but the proof copy describes profile B, then everything but the template defined profile is honored? I could get behind that idea (but what if one selects multiple VC’s with differing profiles and goes into Print?).
That's pretty much it. It does get complicated quickly as you look at multiple VCs or (and I think we need to start making the distinction between proof copies and ordinary virtual copies) if you bring a mixture of PCs and VCs into the print module. I would suggest that the default behavior be to set output profile of the PC as defined in the PC and retain the "sticky" behavior for ordinary VCs.
I also think that having the ability to save a "Print Copy" may change what we need out of the templates and perhaps their overall function should be re-evaluated.
The VC name should show you the profile used for soft proofing if you have the overlay on. That helps too. My concern are those who work with these VC’s and the text overlay is off.
I'm not getting that behavior. The only place the copy name shows up in the print module is in the filmstrip header. Maybe I have a preference set wrong somewhere... Still, I'd rather the software take care of making the match rather than having to double check to make sure I haven't inadvertently changed the profile somehow (i.e. clicking on a template just to see how it would look on another size paper).

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I know this has been discussed but I just cant seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Shooting with a 20D and a 5D, cameras say Srgb.
Pictures in DPP (Canons Raw software) and PS Elements3 and Windows browser all look great. Pictures in LR look don't. I can even develop a raw file in DPP, save it as a jpeg, then import into LR and it looks bad. Skin tones are the worst, but nothing is good.
I love LR for many reasons and I'm sure it's just a simple adjustment but I cant figure it out.
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Hi Bob,
DPP is color managed and I have everything set on sRGB. PSE3 was set to NONE, but I have it set to FULL now. Windows browser is what I'm calling windows "picture and fax viewer". I know it not a "program" but untill now the pic's actually looked better in that than in these expensive programs.
I dont know what to do about the monitor profile, except get it calibrated, ... then do I refer the PP apps to THAT profile?
Lastly, I understand that setting it to sRGB is considered a bad thing, but up until now the colors on all my pics have never looked so good. Of course, I'm always wanting to learn and make things better. Thanks for your help and patience.
BTW-as of right now, ALL programs opening up the same pic looks nearly identical, which is something that has never happened before. Havent tried printing yet though, will tonight.
Any suggestions? Thanks again.
Kristi K

Need help with color settings

I am printing from InDesign CS2 to a Lanier LD 335c multifunction color printer. The colors do not match what is on the pc, and the image quality is grainy. Unfortunately this is a network printer so I do not have access to make changes to the printer settings. I have played with the color management settings in InDesign, the printer driver settings on the pc and everything else I can think of. The technician has come out to look at it, replaced parts and recalibrated the machine, but nothing has changed.
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Actually this is described in the documentation, here (follow the links): http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/EN/80/e8eb40c4f8712ae10000000a155106/frameset.htm.
Alas, Push-buttons do not seem to be possible.
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Rob, here's screenshot of Acrobats Output Preview Object Inspector. You can download my PDF here - //www.fileswap.com/dl/Q1CzzOzEqt/
I'm not sure if CM was assigned to document when created or afterwards. In Color Settings preferences is stated Fogra 39 (if it matters - document was meanwhile saved and opened...). Are there other options to assign workspace to exsisting document?
Peter, this is not the case. Placed image has embeded same color profile as is working space of document in ID. I tried the same with sRGB image placed in same ID document and compared it to PS but color shift (greenish) is present - it looks exactly the same.
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Help with Color Settings/Profiles...White's look 'yellow' when exported to PowerPoint as a .png

I am running into this odd occurence and can't seem to figure it out.
First - I am not an expert in the Color settings/Profiles topic but I am thinking there is an issue here.
When I look at this image "McCroreyDigitalLogo.png" in Photoshop the 'whites' appear right.
Then when I import it into ms PowerPoint, the whites look yellowish.
I have done a series of 'tests' and it seems to be that the color profile out of photoshop and the one in PowerPoint are not compatible.
I have reset my Photoshop preferences with no luck/change to the results.
Finally, I did a screen shot out of photoshop and pasted that into Power point. The white appeared correct.
Could use some guidance on how to fix this one. Basically any files I run through PS, when they are imported into PowerPoint, the whites turn yellow.
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PowerPoint is not a color managed program and can display the color values only in the color space of your monitor without any correction.
Color managed programs like Photoshop correct the color values when displaying them in order to simulate within the color space of your monitor other color spaces, for example sRGB, AdobeRGB, the color spaces of various printers, and etc. For this reason you can not match the color in non-color managed programs to the color of color managed programs but you can do the opposite match the color in Photoshop to PowerPoint.
There is two ways to do this:
One way is if you want the color values in Photoshop to remain the same but be displayed in the color space of your monitor which PowerPoint is using, you can either color proof with or assign your monitor profile to the document.
To color proof choose View > Proof Setup > Monitor RGB.
To assign, choose Edit > Assign Profile, select Profile and from the menu choose the color profile of your monitor. If you are not sure what's the name of the color profile of your monitor, go to the Color Settings, in the Working Spaces section use the RGB menu, scroll up and check what it says after Monitor RGB-
Both proof and assign will give the same result on your monitor but the difference is - the proof is temporary and will last only for the session and the profile, if embedded when saving the file, will stay and when open in other color managed programs including those on other users' computers the color space of your monitor will be simulated and for those users who don't use color managed programs the colors could be way off than if saved with a profile of a more common color space like sRGB.
The other way is If you want the appearance in Photoshop to remain but the color values converted to the color space of your monitor, choose Edit > Convert to Profile, and from the RGB menu choose the color profile of your monitor. This will preserve the appearance and also match the colors in PowerPoint but like proofing and assigning you are not seeing what other users may see on their computers.
It is not possible to see the same colors in color managed and non-color managed programs and at the same time simulate how others using different computers may see the colors because different monitors display color values differently. Color managed programs can simulate a common standard color space like sRGB while non-color managed programs can not.
Edit: Have in mind all this will work properly if you have a color profile that describes correctly how your monitor displays colors. What you did as described in your post #6 is assign a color space that may be different than the color space of your monitor. The result is when working in sRGB color space your color managed programs will match the non color managed programs on your monitor but that doesn't mean that the actual sRGB space is displayed and any other color space simulation could be based on a wrong monitor profile.

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If there is a difference between Lightroom and Photoshop that is in almost all cases an indication of a bad monitor profile. (a more remote possibility is the video card driver, specifically OpenGL, which would affect Photoshop only).
The conversion from source to monitor profile should yield identical results if the monitor profile is good. But since the source color space is different, one conversion may go bad but not the other. It also happens that applications simply react differently to bad profiles.
The Windows desktop is not color managed and a difference is expected.

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I try to print from the print module using custom profiles. When I select the corresponding profile for the print and proceed I should be able to disable colormanagement from the print dialog. Problem is that when custom profile is selected in Lightroom, colormanagement option is grayed out in the print dialog, and color management is ON, not OFF as it should and I can't change it. If I select "printer manages colors" then the colormanagement options are available.
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First: I want to make a *full* system backup, so that I can restore my system in case of breakage without reinstalling. When I looked at creating backups in the past, I noticed some folders don't necessarily had to be backupped. What folders in / could I skip?
Second: I chose the tarball backup format. Would it then be safe to comment out all the other variables (for tarbal-incremental/mySQL) backups?
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--exclude=/etc/fstab \
--exclude=/home \
--exclude=/lost+found \
--exclude=/media \
--exclude=/mnt \
--exclude=/proc \
--exclude=/root \
--exclude=/sys \
--exclude=/tmp \
mv $NB /home/chuck/Backups/
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echo "Sleeping for 10 seconds."
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echo "********************************************************************************"
sleep 5
tar -cvpzf $CB --one-file-system \
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--exclude=/tmp \
--exclude=/mnt \
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echo "********************************************************************************"
sleep 10
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Restored it with this:
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