Help with determining PANTONE swatches accurately

I've recently designed a logo for an event. It's a 3-color design done entirely using process colors. The client would like the PANTONE equivalent of each color, however, and I'm having a lot of trouble figuring this all out (I'm a bit of a prepress newbie).
First of all, I have a lot of questions about the LAB view vs. CMYK view for spot colors in Illustrator:
1) The difference between the two is HUGE. In CMYK view, there is less subtlty, but the colors are vibrant and versatile. In LAB view, I can access certain colors I can't otherwise get, but most of the palette is desaturated and muddy. Is it supposed to be this way?
2) Supposedly, the LAB view for spot colors is relatively new in Illustrator. Considering how far off-base the CMYK versions of each spot swatch is, how was anyone getting work done before this feature was added? I don't understand how I could have even hoped to do spot color work using the CMYK swatches in older versions. They're entirely different colors in many cases. I must be missing something.
3) Is it accurate to say that, monitor calibration notwithstanding, and all other things being equal, the LAB view of a given spot color is more "accurate" than the CMYK version? If this is the case, the PANTONE uncoated library of solids is incredibly dull and muddy, because that's how it looks in LAB mode. I've been browsing a physical PANTONE book as well, and the colors don't appear to be nearly as bad in real life. My monitor may not be perfect, but I can't believe it's so poorly calibrated that the colors could look THIS different.
4) When viewing my work in LAB view, one of my colors translates perfectly from CMYK, while another doesn't even come close when attempting to match it with a spot color. In CMYK view, it's reversed-- the first color looks terrible, while the second actually comes pretty close. Which version can I trust? They're total opposites, making the final selection of a single swatch impossible. I'm not sure what to give my client-- if they're using an older version of Illustrator (which is likely), they'll have to see this in CMYK mode, and it will look terrible. Even a PDF I exported doesn't look right in Acrobat. How should I be approaching this?
As you can see, the seemingly simple task of selecting PANTONE swatches for 3 CMYK colors has turned into a bit of a mess. Any help with these confusions of mine would be hugely appreciated.
Thanks!

Aleister,
my simple advice concerning Spots, is this:
Buy a swatch book for Pantone Spot Coated and a swatch
book for CMYK for your Process Coated, as recommended
by your printing company (here ISO Coated, maybe SWOP
elsewhere).
Then compare visually the chosen Spot and a matching
process color.
If there is no good match, then you can print only
by Spot.
If you've found matching pairs, then you can print
letterheads by Spots and 4-color brochures by CMYK.
Personally, I'm using as equivalents for Spots only
two-color process colors, if e.g. a logo has to be
designed. This leads to minimal registration errors.
Another ugly truth is, that even an accurately calibrated
proof printing system by inkjet cannot reproduce plenty
Spots sufficiently accurate.
Meanwhile you may try to investigate all this by a true
Lab doc for common Spots:
http://www.fho-emden.de/~hoffmann/swatch16032005.pdf
Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

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If, once I get Aperture, I find that it cannot enable the kinds of editing that I do, I would probably get PE11 in the future. However, if people in this forum tell me that Aperture will definitely not support the kinds of editing which I've described in the previous paragraph, I would prefer to get PE11 with my initial configuration (since someone will be helping me with my migration).
Thanks in advance for your consideration and help!

I am concerned, however, about using a non-Apple Digital Asset Manager in OSX. I would really like to avoid integration problems. Is using PE11 to import and catalog my digital photos likely to cause conflicts?
Thanks for any insight on this
Amy,
Not so much conflicts as maybe a little less seamless integration with Apple software and perhaps some third-party software providers in the Mac App Store where some programs build in direct access to iPhoto and Aperture libraries for getting images into those programs easily. Typically, there is a manual command to go to Finder (think Windows Explorer) to browse folders.
One caution to mention however, is that the organization you set-up in PE Organizer is unlikely to transfer over to either iPhoto or Aperture if you decide to change at some point.
The only real stumbling block that I see in your opening comment is that you want hierarchical keywording (Kirby or Léonie can go into the details on keywording limitations as I stay at one level). If you can work with the keywording schemes of either iPhoto or Aperture, then using PE for your external editor (either program supports setting an external editor) would probably be ideal since you know PE well. This is the idea with the Mac App Store version of PE (editor with no organizer).
Note - I use Photoshop CS6 (full version) with Aperture and it works really well. The only downside is that Aperture has to make either a TIFF or PSD file to send to an external editor so that the original file is protected by not sending it to the pixel editor. While TIFF or PSD files protect the integrity of the image information without degrading it, they are typically much larger file sizes on disk than either RAW or JPEG files. Therefore, your library size (iPhoto or Aperture) will balloon quite a bit if you send a lot of files to external editors.
One other possibility for an external editor would be a program called Pixelmator. It is pretty similar to early versions of Photoshop, but built for Mac. Other than the panoramics you want, it will do most pixel editing that PE can do. It is not an organizer, so it is built to go with either iPhoto or Aperture. It does have differences in how you complete certain procedures, so there is bit of a learning curve when you are used to doing it the Adobe way.

Help with exporting HD for use in DVDSP.

Hi Guys,
Very glad I found this forum as I am just out of ideas to get this working. Here is the situation:
I have a project of a wedding in HDV, which contains 3 sequences with the following lengths:
The Service = 45mins
Photoshoot = 5mins
Reception = 80mins
I have decided I would like to have the Service + photoshoot on ONE DVD and the reception on ONE DVD. If possible? If not possible I will have the reception spread over two but i do not see the need.
First of all I have a Powermac dual 1.8 which doesn't have a dual layer dvd burner, so to have a higher quality result and to be able to fit more on I have decided I probably best to get a Dual Layer burner to do this project.
But before I do that, I need to work out what is the best settings for exporting this project out of FCP 5.1 to work on a SD DVD? Do I use compressor? If so which preset or what settings of my own? I have tried various things and I honestly get lost and my project in DVD SP is around 12GB. So i try exporting again with other ways in compressor and then the quality just looks terrible.
The FCP project is all in HDV with apple intermediate codec so I would be exporting from that, but obviously only need the DVD in SD!
If it helps converting the HD project to SD/DV I can do that with the sequence which I did try and then some more export experimenting but it looked really bad.
Please help guys I am desperate and no idea on what to do here.
I really appreciate your time, feel free to ask me anything to help you determine what I should do.
Thank you so much.
Matt
G5 Dual 1.8ghz Mac OS X (10.4.10) 2.5gb ram, 320gb + 160gb + 320gb ext.

Thanks for the reply.
How can I set the audio in the DVD SP project?
I am using the "default" settings now which are 4.0 and 7.0 and it still says too high? Whats the deal
Here is the log:
Starting DVD Build HAWKESDVDPROJECT...
Compiler Initializing...
Precompiling Project HAWKESDVDPROJECT
Compiling VMG Information...
Created 9 PGCs in VTSM1
Created 5 PGCs in VTSM2
Created 5 PGCs in VTSM3
Created 5 PGCs in VTSM4
Created 5 PGCs in VTSM5
Created 8 PGCs in VMG.
1 Menu(s) will be created...
Compiling Menu PGCs...
Compiling Menu#1 (Menu 1)...
Rendering Menu:Menu 1,Language:1...
Generating Transition: VTSM #01, VOB #1...
Generating Transition: VTSM #01, VOB #2...
Writing VIDEO_TS.VOB
Compiling Menu PGCs...
Writing VTS020.VOB
Compiling Menu PGCs...
Writing VTS030.VOB
Compiling Menu PGCs...
Writing VTS040.VOB
Compiling Menu PGCs...
Writing VTS050.VOB
5 VTSs and 5 Titles will be created...
Compiling VTS#1 (PhotoShoot-uncomp8bit (Video))...
Muxing VTS011.VOB
Done.
Compiling VTS#2 (PhotoShoot-uncomp8bit (Video)-2)...
Writing VTS020.VOB
Muxing VTS021.VOB
Done.
Compiling VTS#3 (PhotoShoot-uncomp8bit (Video)-3)...
Writing VTS030.VOB
Muxing VTS031.VOB
Done.
Compiling VTS#4 (Service-uncomp8bit (Video))...
Writing VTS040.VOB
Muxing VTS041.VOB
Video Bitrate Too High
I'm not sure whats going on with 3 different photoshoots? I am so lost and restarted the project about 4 times now.
Mode: One Pass?
Motion Estimation?
Any suggestions? Sorry to keep bothering you.

Help with exporting Deski to text file via Web Intelligence

We are currently converting from BO version 5 to BO XI rev2. I have a report that must be scheduled to a flie in plain text format. I am using a deski report. When I save as to text, the file is fine. When I schedule it in webi, the file seems to be missing the end of line character for each row in the table, so it cannot be used for an import to another program. Can anybody help with this?-

well, in that case you need to determine if this issue only happens with a perticular report or all of them, if it happens only with reports imported from 5.x or with newly created reports as well.
Looks like it is happening only when report is exported from Infoview, not in the Deski client. This might indicate a problem at the Web Apllication server (tomcat or one you use).
If this issue is happening with any report - it might be a bug. In that case you have no options as there are no more patches for XIR2.
On the other hand - if all you need is to extract data for consumption in another tool , why not use Data integrator instead ?
Also, if this desn't work in Deski - does it work if you convert your reports to webi and export from those ?

Hi can you help with the following panic attack report,

hi can you help with the following panic attack report, macbook pro OS 10.7.3
Interval Since Last Panic Report: 157997 sec
Panics Since Last Report:          1
Anonymous UUID:                    7ADCF50C-CC18-405E-9D5C-03325D3A83FA
Thu Mar 29 05:37:28 2012
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff80002c266d): Kernel trap at 0xffffff800021d905, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0xffffef801a845328, CR3: 0x0000000019452019, CR4: 0x00000000000606e0
RAX: 0xffffff801a8450d8, RBX: 0xffffff800e79f340, RCX: 0xffffff801a8450d8, RDX: 0xffffef801a8450d8
RSP: 0xffffff80a4623e90, RBP: 0xffffff80a4623eb0, RSI: 0x0000000020c85580, RDI: 0x0000000000000001
R8: 0xffffff80008bd890, R9: 0xffffff80058aeac8, R10: 0xfffffe80539a9928, R11: 0x0008000000053d89
R12: 0xffffff800e79f370, R13: 0xffffff8000846288, R14: 0xffffff801a8450c0, R15: 0x0000000000000001
RFL: 0x0000000000010206, RIP: 0xffffff800021d905, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010
CR2: 0xffffef801a845328, Error code: 0x0000000000000002, Faulting CPU: 0x0
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff80a4623b50 : 0xffffff8000220702
0xffffff80a4623bd0 : 0xffffff80002c266d
0xffffff80a4623d70 : 0xffffff80002d7a1d
0xffffff80a4623d90 : 0xffffff800021d905
0xffffff80a4623eb0 : 0xffffff800021daad
0xffffff80a4623ee0 : 0xffffff800023caa9
0xffffff80a4623f10 : 0xffffff800023cb36
0xffffff80a4623f30 : 0xffffff80005a3258
0xffffff80a4623f60 : 0xffffff80005ca448
0xffffff80a4623fb0 : 0xffffff80002d7f39
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: SophosAntiVirus
Mac OS version:
11D50b
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 11.3.0: Thu Jan 12 18:47:41 PST 2012; root:xnu-1699.24.23~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 7B6546C7-70E8-3ED8-A6C3-C927E4D3D0D6
System model name: MacBookPro8,3 (Mac-942459F5819B171B)
System uptime in nanoseconds: 5720232329361
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Get rid of Sophos Anti-Virus software you have installed. Use the uninstaller or:
Uninstalling Software: The Basics
Most OS X applications are completely self-contained "packages" that can be uninstalled by simply dragging the application to the Trash. Applications may create preference files that are stored in the /Home/Library/Preferences/ folder. Although they do nothing once you delete the associated application, they do take up some disk space. If you want you can look for them in the above location and delete them, too.
Some applications may install an uninstaller program that can be used to remove the application. In some cases the uninstaller may be part of the application's installer, and is invoked by clicking on a Customize button that will appear during the install process.
Some applications may install components in the /Home/Library/Applications Support/ folder. You can also check there to see if the application has created a folder. You can also delete the folder that's in the Applications Support folder. Again, they don't do anything but take up disk space once the application is trashed.
Some applications may install a startupitem or a Log In item. Startupitems are usually installed in the /Library/StartupItems/ folder and less often in the /Home/Library/StartupItems/ folder. Log In Items are set in the Accounts preferences. Open System Preferences, click on the Accounts icon, then click on the LogIn Items tab. Locate the item in the list for the application you want to remove and click on the "-" button to delete it from the list.
Some software use startup daemons or agents that are a new feature of the OS. Look for them in /Library/LaunchAgents/ and /Library/LaunchDaemons/ or in /Home/Library/LaunchAgents/.
If an application installs any other files the best way to track them down is to do a Finder search using the application name or the developer name as the search term. Unfortunately Spotlight will not look in certain folders by default. You can modify Spotlight's behavior or use a third-party search utility, Easy Find, instead. Download Easy Find at VersionTracker or MacUpdate.
Some applications install a receipt in the /Library/Receipts/ folder. Usually with the same name as the program or the developer. The item generally has a ".pkg" extension. Be sure you also delete this item as some programs use it to determine if it's already installed.
There are many utilities that can uninstall applications. Here is a selection:
AppZapper
Automaton
Hazel
CleanApp
Yank
SuperPop
Uninstaller
Spring Cleaning
Look for them at VersionTracker or MacUpdate.
For more information visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQ on removing software.

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