Help with Pantone Plus Swatches

I posted a query to Pantone a month ago, but still no answer so I'm hoping someone can help please:
I have the CMYK coated Plus Series and wish to use them in InDesign CS5. I can't see them listed under Swatches > Color Mode. There is Process Coated but the colors are not the same and are incomplete. I have also installed myPantone 1.5.
My monitor is calibrated but colors don't seem to match up. How can I use the guides please?
I'm on OS X 10.6.7 on a new iMac.

Have you installed the Pantone Plus library into InDesign?
If not, go here
http://www.pantone.com/pages/Pantone/Pantone.aspx?pg=20721&ca=1
the utility to install it is near the bottom of the page.

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Aleister,
my simple advice concerning Spots, is this:
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designed. This leads to minimal registration errors.
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proof printing system by inkjet cannot reproduce plenty
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Meanwhile you may try to investigate all this by a true
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http://www.fho-emden.de/~hoffmann/swatch16032005.pdf
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In your bottom capture the 187 swatch is from the the legacy Pantone library where solid color swatches were defined as CMYK. Here I'ved saved the old pre CS6 coated library and 187 is defined as a spot color but with CMYK values:
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In your bottom capture the 187 swatch is from the the legacy Pantone library where solid color swatches were defined as CMYK. Here I'ved saved the old pre CS6 coated library and 187 is defined as a spot color but with CMYK values:
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