Help with RAM upgrade (K8T Neo Platinum)

Hey everyone,
It's been a couple of years since I built my system (specs below), and I'm looking to upgrade the RAM.
I'd like to upgrade to 2 or 3 gigs and I'm not sure if I would want to keep my existing modules in place and use the empty slot.
Any advice would be much appreciated! Thanks.
AMD Athlon64 3200+ (Retail)
MSI K8T Neo Platinum BIOS v1.3
Corsair XMS 3200CL PRO (2x512)
Leadtek Geforce 6800 GT 256MB
Creative Audigy 2 Platinum
NEC 2500A DVD-ROM
2x 80GB Hitachi SATA (RAID 0)
Antec TruePower 430
Antec P160 Case

You can buy a 2 gig kit of the same type that you have if you want to upgrade to 2gig. There is very little need for more than 2gig of memory, unless you are using it for memory intensive work.
If you get a 2gig dual channel kit, then a future upgrade to a socket 939 means that you won't have to buy memory.

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bios version: 1.3v
Q6600 quard core 2.66GHz
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2x2 Gb DDR2 800MHz Kingston
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3) It will load windows, then crash after sometime.
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yes the psu has a single +12v rail with 21A rating, but somehow i don't feel the problem is because of it. When my system successfully boots, it works properly. I can play or work on high performance softwares for any number of hours without fail, which ought not to happen if the psu is bad.
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Help plz!! k8n neo platinum... :(

hi guys, im new here, and i dont know what else to do.... :( so this is the situation:
I just bough my new mobo and cpu like a month ago, and it all works fine... but last week i bought a new memory Kington PC3200 value ram 512mb, and now everthing is a hell :(
at beginning windows crash and blue screens are all the time, then i decided to format c and reinstall windows xp pro...
now everything is worst!!!!
i cant even install win xp, it crash all of a sudden, or it just blue screen while it's intalling the windows... :(
i dont know what to do or what is wrong.. i test the ram in other pc and it works fine...
whe the ram is in dimm 1 the windows setup just froze in the "starting windows" while in dimm 2 or 3 it goes all the way to installing windows, but then latter it just crash...
i have almost everything in the bios in auto... and i dont know what else to do :'( plz help me out...
my specs are:
Semprom 3100+
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
BIOS 1.4
PC3200 Kington value ram
MSI Geforce nvidia 5200fx
btw before the new ram, i had 2 sticks of DDR 266mhz one of 128 and other was 256 all was kingston... can anyone help?? plz...
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Those are what's usually called memory timings. Before you try adjusting those numbers, you should try clocking the RAM down from 200 to 166 in the BIOS and see how that works. Also try to set your RAM at 2T instead of 1T and see what that does.
If you want to mess with the timings, the following comes directly from this post: Overclocking Guide
"Memory Speed
Memory speed is often tied to the FSB. For example, a Double Data Rate (DDR) 400 memory has frequency 200MHz and the module rating is PC3200. Half the performance increase you may see from overclocking a CPU comes from increasing the speed at which the processor can talk to the memory.
When you buy memory, you may see it has label 2-3-3-7-1T. And you may also hear people saying my memory is a 2-3-3-7 one. But what does it mean? The answer is:
CAS Latency = 2 clock cycles
tRCD = RAS to CAS delay = 3 clock cycles
tRP = RAS Precharge = 3 clock cycles
tRAS = Active to Precharge = 7 clock cycles
Command Rate = 1 clock cycle
Different motherboards may call the above differently and not all of them will appear in the BIOS. You may need to check with your motherboard’s support team and the motherboard manual. If you have any option above in your BIOS, you can also start to adjust them. Obviously, the smaller the number the faster the memory will be.
To know more about memory please read:
http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/prod...3707/index.html
AND
Memory Roundup
AND
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2223
Keep in mind that this RAM you are using has already been reported as not working well with this mobo. In addition, when you have to start tweaking BIOS RAM performance down from the defaults, just to get it to work, it's not generally a good thing and means you're RAM is not up to snuff.
But good luck with it.

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Hello. I am hoping you can give me some advice on what to do (or buy) to improve my video editing system. I am a bit of novice when it comes to the technical/hardware end of things and I’m having some issues with my current system.
I working in Adobe CS6 Master Suite on a Windows 7 Ultimate PC. I mainly use Premiere Pro, After Effects, Photoshop, and Audition. I create very complete animations and videos with many layers and effects (via Boris & Red Giant). I also use Skype to record group video calls (with the program Evaer) for a reality T.V. recap show which I also edit with my Adobe suite. However I have two main problems.
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I realize I am asking a lot of questions. I would truly appreciate any help, advice or just a point in the right direction. I have included my current system specs below incase that helps with any of my questions. If you have any other questions or need more information just let me know. Thank you again in advance for any help you can provide.
-Eric
MOTHERBOARD:
Gigabyte G1.Assassin http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3752#ov
PROCESSOR:
Intel Core i7 X 980
5 HARD DRIVES:
(1) SATA II WD (WD15EADS-00P8B0) 3gb Hard Drive @ 1.5TB
(2) OCZ SATA AGILITY II SSD drives @120GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227543
(2) Hitachi 6gb SATA III drives @2TB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145473
3 DVD/CD/BLUERAY DRIVES:
(1) SATA DVD DRIVE
(1) SATA BlueRay Drive
RAM:
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GRAPHICS:
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SOUND CARD:
NONE DEDICATED: But Onboard Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Digital Audio Processor (20K2) with X-Fi Xtreme Fidelity™ and EAX® AHD 5.0™ Technologies built into MoBo.
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Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Intel(R) ICH10R SATA AHCI Controller
Realtek PCI GBE Family Controller
Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller
Renesas Electronics USB 3.0 Host Controller
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Eric,
I would hardly call the Quadro card an upgrade to a GTX 680!
Regarding getting more speed from a faster MB / CPU, since you already have a 6-core rig with 24GB of RAM I would think that any gains you would get would not be that dramatic.
Check out your cpu usage (Task manager) and see how busy your cores are during a test render. I am guessing that the Boris and / or Red Giant effects could be jumping your projects from gaining the full multi-core capabilities of the Adobe software.
Regards,
Jim

Problems with RAM upgrade iMac G5 1.8GHz

Stuck - Need Help!
I've previously upgraded up iMac to 2 500Mb RAMs and felt recently that it needed that little bit extra, so I ordered two 1Gb chips from crucial.
Followed instructions to T, but with the two new chips in, the machine won't load.
Interestingly, it boots up with the following RAM combinations
old 500MB + new 1GB (in any combination) - recognised as 1.5GB
one new 1GB RAM (again either one) - recognised as 1GB
I spoke to crucial who said that as the RAMs work individually, there isn't a problem with them, it could be a Firmware issue. I've upgraded all my software, and don't know what to do next?
Anyone overcome a similar problem in the past?
Thanks

I'm experiencing something very similar to shaow. I'll share my experience in gory details - sorry for the long post but I've spent more hours trying to stabilize. I should have worked the hours at walmart and bought a new iMac with the money I could have earned
Anyway, here goes:
Two iMac G5 1.8Ghz 17" (both Fall 2005 model), will call one A and the other B.
Prior to attempting ram upgrade: A, config working fine: both a config using 1GB slot 1, 256MB slot 2 and a single 1 PC3200 1GB stick. OS X 10.4-10.5.7. No problems. I did have the motherboard replaced under warranty after having sleep problems - capacitors were expanded. No problems since that motherboard swap.
Prior to attempting ram upgrade: B, config working fine: 2 x 256MB sticks. OS X 10.3.9
Ordered 3 PC3200 400Mhz 1GB sticks from Data Memory Systems.
Upgraded A: Added 1GB stick = 2GB total
Upgraded B: Removed both 256MB sticks from B and added two 1GB sticks = 2GB total
Booted B, experienced gray screen of death with the multi-language crash message - somethign like: 'Please hold down the power button and restart'. Power cycled B, booted off a retail box DVD of OS X 10.5.6. Began upgrade to 10.5.6. Gray screen of death part way thru upgrade. Power cycled, gray screen of death again during early boot phase.
Decided to run tests on B. I could not locate the Apple Hardware Test (neither on system dvd 1 nor on a separate DVD). I resorted to using TechnoTools Deluxe which was included with AppleCare box. No hardware problems found including on the 2GB memory.
Removed both new 1GB sticks, pulled older working 1GB stick from A and installed into B. Completed upgrade with just 1GB memory on B to 10.5.6 and subsequently pulled down all updates for OS X 10.5.8. Powered down, added second 1GB stick to B, booted into 10.5.8 successfully. Repaired disk permissions, restarted. Began using applications, then after only about 5 minutes experienced gray screen of death. Powered down, removed new 1GB stick, replaced with one of the two remaining new 1GB sticks. Read about reseting PRAM/NVRAM. Followed steps to reset PRAM then decided to do the reset NVRAM within openfirmware. Started back up and logged into 10.5.8. Ran several applications - did not experience gray screen of death after about 20 minutes use. Have not had time for further tests on B yet.
Back to my saga with A (my original iMac G5 that was working fine with 1GB stick on 10.5.7):
Called Data Memory Systems and they sent me a replacement for the 'bad' 1GB stick.
While I was waiting for the new 1GB stick from DMS, I was struggling to get machine fully updated. Software Updater was failing with the weird network error (network was fine) and after following steps to troubleshoot, I backed up the user accounts and decided to reinstall OS X fresh from the 10.5.6 retail box (family license). Finally, I had OS X 10.5.8 all fully updated on the 1GB iMac G5 (A).
New memory arrived, installed 2nd 1GB stick. Booted up, immediately I got the gray screen of death. Restarted, booted up got about 5-15 minutes use then gray screen of death. Puzzled, I called DMS who said unlikely I got 2 bad sticks. They suggested I try memtest. So I did...
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I'm starting to wonder if the original iMac G5 has firmware problems that would prevent it from being unstable with two 1GB sticks??? My experience on two identical models of iMac G5 plus reading this post with VERY similar behaviors and after all the normal tests. I've concluded the memory is A-OK and something more sinister is lurking...
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The "safe mode" that the BIOS message refers to is not related to Windows' Safe Mode. The BIOS safe mode lets you un-do any overclocking or memory settings that might make your computer so unstable that you can't even get into the BIOS settings to change them. In that case, you hold insert while powering on to reset the BIOS to default safe values.
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hey guys i need help with getting more ram on the pc side of bootcamp.
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then on the mac i got this
Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro1,1
Processor Name: Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
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Rodney:
You cannot physically or via software add/move RAM from OSx side to Windows side. This is because you run Leopard and Windows separately and therefore when one is running the other is not active. The only thing that controls how much RAM Windows sees/uses is determined by the type of Windows you have installed (32BIT or 64BIT). Please do not confuse that with Gigabytes of RAM or disk space.
32BIT Windows has a maximum limit of 3GB of RAM (it often uses only around 2GB of RAM when it is sharing the system RAM with your video card. I believe this is the case with you.
64BIT Windows will be able to sees/use all of your 4GB of RAM.
Leopard sees/uses all of your 4GB of RAM.
If you have installed Windows XPSP2 and it is working properly on your boot camp partition then I can assure you that it is the 32BIT version.
FYI - The only time that one can select/decide how much RAM Leopard uses and how much RAM Windows uses is when one is running Windows as a Virtual Machine under software such as Fusion or Parallels. I have assumed that you are running windows on a boot camp partition (from your posts) and therefore this does not apply to you.
Axel F.

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Hi
Deep breath, I think I've understood.
It sounds like bios settings, and the SATA drivers on the floppy.
If you have not already loaded your HDD with OS and DATA, I would start again,
First check the settings in BIOS, set to SAFE DEFAULTS, then go to Integrated Peripherals, page 3-20 of the manual, if you use the VIA drivers for SATA, thats SATA 1 & 2, then disable the P20378 S.ATA controller, make sure the PATA IDE and SATA IDE are enabled, if PATA is disabled the IDE devices won't be recognised. Exit and set Boot sequence to floppy, CD, HDD, enable other boot devices. exit and save.
Try your DVDs on cable select, the master on end of cable, I would try another 80 wire cable in case your is damaged.
Restart, when first XP blue screen press F6, later it asks to press S to load from floppy, follow prompts load both XP drivers, you will need to press S a 2nd time for the 2nd driver, at setup screen you should see all HDDs, partition, format , install
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http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=6&id=1247&pg=12
The author write:
"One of the problem we encountered was the transistor positioning near the AGP slot. With extremely lengthy AGP cards, one of the capacitors located in that area may obstruct certain components on the graphics card. As such, users with large graphics cards might want to first test the installation of a graphics card before purchasing this motherboard."
I have a Gainward 6800GT Powerpack Ultra/2400 Golden Sample, the red model with double red fans, visible here http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gainward-ultra2400.html
Approx 21 cm lenght. There is any mounting problem with this graphic card and the K8N NEO Platinum?

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Originally posted by ozzimark
currently all 6800gt's and ultras are based off the same reference boards, so they're the same exact length as the one you linked to in your first post, however, i also have the stock cooler.. the gainward has one that is significantly larger, but i feel that there isn't anything in the way of mounting that card.
In fact this is my fear
The cooler on my card is very big, but i don't want to eventually modify it in the future because it's in warranty. Someone know what is the height of the three damned capacitors? If i know the height, i can estabilsh if this gfx card can fit without troubles in the motherboard. I want an MSI don't want to buy an Asus

Problems with 9600XT and k8t Neo 2

I have a problem with my 9600XT and my board...
Sometimes the board indicates grafic-card failure at post (8 beeps in a row).
After som trying it will work and windows will start. Games work just fine!
I should say that when i installed the new board my old 9600XT didnt work (8 beeps) And i had it replaced, and after getting the new 9600XT (RMA-return) it have worked just fine until a few days ago...
MSI k8t neo 2
Sapphire 9600XT
AMD 64 3500+
Q-TEC 550w (possible problem?)
Bios: 3.30
I also have a problem with the data execution (dont know it in english). explorer.exe is shutting down sometimes due to the data execution protection. No viruses according to nod32...

Maybe you should your memory module in DIMM2 (the other green one), if it's in DIMM1 right now. Or you could try another module, if possible.
Here are the beep codes:
Quote
Beep codes for AMIBIOS (American Megatrends, Inc.):
Boot Block Beep Codes
Number of Beeps; Description:
1 ; Insert diskette in floppy drive A:
2 ; ‘AMIBOOT.ROM’ file not found in root directory of diskette in A:
3 ; Base Memory error
4 ; Flash Programming successful
5 ; Floppy read error
6 ; Keyboard controller BAT command failed
7 ; No Flash EPROM detected
8 ; Floppy controller failure
9 ; Boot Block BIOS checksum error
10 ; Flash Erase error
11 ; Flash Program error
12 ; ‘AMIBOOT.ROM’ file size error
13 ; BIOS ROM image mismatch (file layout does not match image present in flash device)
POST BIOS Beep Codes
Number of Beeps; Description:
1 ; Memory refresh timer error.
2 ; Parity error in base memory (first 64KB block)
3 ; Base memory read/write test error
4 ; Motherboard timer not operational
5 ; Processor error
6 ; 8042 Gate A20 test error (cannot switch to protected mode)
7 ; General exception error (processor exception interrupt error)
8 ; Display memory error (system video adapter)
9 ; AMIBIOS ROM checksum error
10 ; CMOS shutdown register read/write error
11 ; Cache memory test failed
Seems to me it's a POST bios beep code...keep trying with the Radeon 9600XT card installed.

My 1st iMac, need help with the upgrade to Leopard CPU Drop-In DVD

Hello all, my 1st post as a new Apple switcher!
I just received my new iMac 24" today, and I am not sure about the upgrade to Leopard. (Came pre-installed with Tiger, and came with a Leopard CPU Drop-In DVD). I have read about a few issues with the upgrade / re-install process to Leopard, stemming from the rumor that the Leopard CPU Drop-In DVD is not a full version, but an upgrade only.
First of all, obviously I am supposed to put in the "Drop-In DVD" and let it rip, but there are several options to pick from. One of them is upgrade, and another is to erase the hard drive and perform a clean install.
My questions are:
If I perform the erase and install, I have heard that iLife 08 will not be installed. If so, where / how do I reinstall that and any other apps that are left out?
Secondly, in the future, if I need to re-install again, will this "Drop-In DVD" work because Tiger has been removed from the hard drive? Will I just pop in my Tiger disks like the old Windows stuff required?
I plan on just doing the upgrade, but I would like to know what to do in the future if I have to do an erase / install.
Thank you, and the iMac 24" is gorgeous!

Hey, I know what you mean.
I upgraded to Leopard after buying my first mac with Tiger.
I rang customer service and asked how do I install iLife 08 if I do a clean instal,l as when i upgraded my Safari would not play flash, quicktime or open certain websites. Also I had a very long load up period with Blue Screen which bothered me a lot. (I know I am fussy)
Anyway my brother suggested I use Pacifist to get the .pkg files from the Tiger boot disk. He took control of my machine as he has Leopard and did this for me remotely as I am not a wizard like him.
By the way that is a great feature of Leopard.
Anyway this worked for me, only iMovie would not start properly but when I download the updates to iLife 08 they all work perfectly now. Saved my 79 euro as well instead of having to buy again as I think iLife should be supplied on a separate disk, (bad form apple) as they know for many a clean install is likely if they experience serious issues upgrading.
Anyway pacifist http://www.charlessoft.com/ is worth a try if you can't afford to fork out for iLife again like me.
Just make sure you select all the iLife .pkg files and composer files. when it installs if the files are already there just click leave alone and it will install only what it needs. Then run the updates if you have any issues opening any of the programs such as imovie and this should replace any missing files.
I have open and run all the iLife programs and so far so good.

Strange issue with RAM upgrade: It works but it doesn't! Please help.

Hello Everyone,
I have a very strange issue with my iMac since upgrading my RAM from 4 to 12 gig. When I first installed the new RAM it booted up and ran great. The next time I went to boot the iMac up it swtiched on but didn't get as far as the first white boot up screen. I tried turning it off and on a few times using the power on/off button but still no success. I decided to remove the RAM and reseat it. The computer then booted up again fine. Here's the problem though: when I went to switch my iMac on the next day it wouldn't boot up. Again, I took the RAM out and put it back in and the iMac booted up fine. I've checked the status of the RAM in the system profiler and it reports that everything is OK. So, I'm at a loss. Obviously, I don't want to go through this process every time I want to start up my Mac. Any ideas/solutions would be very gratefully received.
Many thanks in advance.

I completely agree with you. It will be one of the 3 issues you outline. The machine was bought brand new and has never given me a problem. It is just the introduction of the new RAM that has started a problem. However, I did just risk a restart and it booted up fine. I don't know if a restart is any different to shutting down and then pressing the on/off button to start the computer. Maybe my last reseating has done the trick or maybe my thinking is flawed because restarting involves a different process to booting up by pressing the on/off button. I don't know.
In the part of the world I'm sitting in it's night time now so I will leave the diagnostics running and check the results in the morning. I hope the issue is now resolved anyway. This sort of thing takes me back to my dark PC days although in this case I know it's probably not the Mac's fault.
Thanks again. Very much appreciated.

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