Helvetica Neue Bold doesn't render spaces in Photoshop CS4 under Lion

PS CS4 seems to work great (albeit slightly slower) under Lion. However, I have noticed one glitch that is slightly annoying.
The Helvetica Neue font on the system renders normally except for the Bold variant, which doesn't seem to render any spaces. Even opening an existing PSD that uses Helvetica Neue will render the font the same way. In fact, there's a flash where it's normal but then all the spaces suddenly disappear.
Anyone else experienced this or know of a solution?
Thanks
AC

Yes, I'm aware there are always issues - to Adobe's credit, there weren't a whole lot this time around.
I think I was surprised that you acted, in a one-line (also flippant) response, that we were crazy for upgrading our OS "untested". There are lots of other apps that I use in my daily workflow that had already been upgraded to work with Lion, and I'm not about to partition my computer so I can run Adobe's products which, as I was under the impression (perhaps mistakenly), they had already internally tested to ensure compatibility.
Perhaps you're over-estimating my urgency. It's one variant of one font, the only issue I've found running CS4 on Lion. It's not a "big roadblock," and my OS + PS is completely functional otherwise. That said, it is a bug with only Adobe products so I felt it was appropriate for me to report here, in the Adobe forums. Coincidentally, I've also reported it at Photoshop.com's Photoshop support forum, where hopefully it may also be seen. Yes, it might take days or weeks... but that's the nature of a bug and fix.
So basically, I'll wait for the fix. Thanks anyway.

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