Hey Good Bye MSI

Hey,
Just wanted to say Good bye to everyone , I now with Abit , I got the Abit IC7-MAx3, and I love it , I got so tired if MSI 875, BIOS Problems. So I hope that everyone can fix the problems with there board..
GO Away MSI , and never come back again .
Take Care everyone.
Bye

Well... I can do nothing but to bid farewell... Hope you don't have to type the same thing in ABIT forum when you switch to ASUS the next time round .
Anyway, I'm also getting either the ABIT IC7 Max3 OTES or ASUS Dual P4 CPU mobo running on the i875P chipset for a test bed to run and compare the performance with my two other stable systems running on MSI 865PE NEO2 S mobo and MSI 655 FIS2R HT MVP mobo.
I shall see on how the results varies in various tests but it'll only happen in Dec... as the mobos here are Expensive !!!

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