Hi8 Video Capture

I'm trying to capture Hi8 video in my Macbook Pro 17 (OS 10.5.8). I have connected my Hi8 tape deck
(which does not have time code) to the Macbook Pro via an ADVC100 analog to DV convertor..
When I open the Final Cut Express capture window color bars appear in the preview area with an overlaying
black bar containing the words "Preview Disabled" even with the tape deck running or in pause. Clicking on "NOW"
in the capture window simply brings up a black window rather than showing video coming out of the Hi8 deck as
seen on another monitor.
If I have the Hi8 deck in Pause and click the "NOW' button followed by unpausing the deck "a split second later" then
video capture does take place. Waiting longer than a split second does not work.Getting this timing just right is very
difficult, and usually takes several attempts. Clicking "NOW' after unpausing the deck also does not work.
Any suggestions about enabling the preview window so that I don't have to use this trial and error approach to capturing
Hi8 video?

Are you using the DV Convert capture setting in FCE? And as you've discovered, the tape must be playing when you hit the NOW button - not the other way around.
-DH

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How can I get Hi8 video captured in NTSC Standard, to display as 4:3 when DVD is played on TV?

I have been capturing Hi8 tapes of our family, using a Sony analog-to-digital converter and Adobe Premier 10's NTSC Standard (4:3) preset. However, when I use Premiere Elements 10 to burn the digital files to DVDs and then play them on a Sony DVD player and Bravia flat-panel TV, the video is distorted in width automatically by the Wide Zoom mode. The TV cannot be configured to display the frames in the Normal Mode because the resolution is 720p, so the images cannot be viewed with the original 4:3 frame aspect ratio.
After much experimentation, I tried capturing a tape in the NTSC Wide (16:9) preset. When I started to burn the AVI file to a DVD, I got a warning that I was using the wrong format, and the choice to correct the format. I chose NO, and then burned the DVD. To my surprise, it did display on the TV without horizontal stretch, and the images did not appear to have been noticeably degraded.
I would very much appreciate knowing if there is some way for me to go back now and have Premiere Elements 10 somehow reformat all of the Hi8 tapes I captured using the NTSC Standard preset, so that I don't have to recapture them, but can simply reformat them and burn them to DVD's that can be displayed on the TV without being distorted?

Thanks for replying Steve. I've been using a Sony DVMC-DA2, an analog-to- digital media converter which I was advised is used by people converting media professionally. I've been using an S-Video cable to connect it to my Sony Hi8 video camera (Model CCD-TR101), which was considered to be a high-end camera, back in the day (1992). The converter is connected to my Windows 7 computer with an IEEE 1394, "FireWire" cable. I'm not sure how I would check the format into which the Hi8 video is being converted, but I've followed the Adobe Premiere 10 Video Tutorial and configured the capture preset to the NTSC Standard (4:3), which is the one recommended for DV cameras. I couldn't find any advice specifically explaining how to configure the preset when converting analog Hi8 to digital.
In the Premiere Elements 10 editing software itself, the video images burned on a DVD are not distorted, and the quality of the video images during editing looks to be every bit as good as the camera could record.
When I started showing the DVD's to my family, however, I was very disappointed to discover that everything looked stretched in the horizontal direction. I have since studied the configuring of frame aspect ratio modes (Normal, Zoom, Wide Zoom and Full) described in the Sony Bravia TV's instruction manual, in detail. And, I have tried every conceivable combination of the picture and frame settings to see if I could "unstretch' the video images. No, luck. It was then that I came across a footnote that indicated that the Normal mode was not available for video resolutions of 720p, 1080 and higher. Unfortunately, the NTSC Standard preset indicates that it does capture DV in images that have 720 horizontal pixels by 480 vertical pixels.
When I view the Hi8 burned to DVD's on other computers, using Windows Media Player and Video Lan, they are not distorted. In fact, they look so good that I'm just about ready to dedicate my laptop as the DVD player for my TV set! It was while contemplating whether there might be a way to avoid doing this, that it occured to me to try capturing some Hi8 tape using the NTSC Wide Screen preset option. My half-formed idea was that, since the ratio of pixel width to pixel height in the Standard preset was smaller than with the Widescreen preset, using the latter to capture an analog video image might either (1) expand the width of the overall image much farther, and cause grotesque distortion, or (2) squash the width of the overall image, so that it looked normal. I can't pretend to have known what I was doing, since I don't understand video recording technology, but it also occured to me that the Widescreen preset might degrade the resolution, so that it was somehow no longer 720p, and thereby possibly circumvent the Sony lockout of the Normal Mode for these DVD's. Whatever it did, capturing Hi8 video with the NTSC Widescreen preset did, indeed, reduce the width of the frames appearing on the TV Screen, so that they apperared normal.
The question with which I'm now wrestling is whether to go back and re-capture all of the Hi8 tapes, with the NTSC Widescreen preset, that I had already captured with the NTSC Standard preset - a big job. The warning window that popped-up when I prepared to burn the test video captured with the Widescreen preset gave me the option of correcting my "mistaken" choice of capture preset. I declined, and was rewarded with an undistorted video image. Which raises the possibility that, somewhere in Premiere Elements 10, there may be the capability of invoking that same pop-up window and modifying what the software considers to be the "correct," Standard preset to the Widescreen preset,so that I can change the formatting for all of the HI8 tapes I've already captured, so that they can be burned to DVD's and viewed in their proper frame aspect ration.
This has been a long-winded follow-up to your initial answer to my question, but I would very much appreciate any further suggestions.
Many thanks. Paul

Why can't I get any audio sound on my Hi8 video capture in iMovie?

Hi
I have just captured some video clips from my Hi8 Camcorder and exported it to iMovie on my Apple Mac. Unfortunately there is no audio sound on the captured video. Can any one help? I am using Roxio Video Capture USB to capture the video from my camcorder.
Nazimoja

>I am using Roxio Video Capture USB
That's the problem. The Roxio device captures in a highly compressed, multiplexed (muxed) format that isn't intended for editing. Muxed files won't playback audio without the proper software installed on your system. You could try using MPEG Streamclip to convert the captured files to an editable format, but that means you'll be taking a double hit on quality.
The proper way to capture analog footage for editing is to use a qualified "DV Device" (DV camcorder, converter or VTR) to convert the analog signal into a Firewire signal and use iMovie, FCE or FCP to capture and edit. Or, in your case, you could use a Digital8 camcorder for playback directly via Firewire.
FWIW, this is the Final Cut Studio forum. The iMovie forum is located here: https://discussions.apple.com/community/ilife/imovie?view=discussions
-DH

Capture Hi8 Video

I find a missing Sony Hi8 Vidoe tape. The Video Capturing device I still have is KWorld VS-USB2800D DVD Make USB2.0. It comes with a Windows XP video capturing software PVR-PLUS which cannot be used on my MacBook Pro obviously.
1) Can I still use the KWorld VS-USB2800D device? What software / apps are available on OS X Mountain Lion? e.g. iMovie.
2) Or is there any recommendation for a simple but compatible app I can purchase from the Mac App Store?
3) If I need to buy another video capturing device? Which one?
4) What is the best quality of output should I choose for the video capturing?

Are you using the DV Convert capture setting in FCE? And as you've discovered, the tape must be playing when you hit the NOW button - not the other way around.
-DH

Solutions to importing VHS and Hi8 video to iMovie6?

I would like to import into my G4 tower with OS10.5 my old VHS and Hi8 videos for editing in iMovie 06. I've tried creating a DVD first but iMovie doesn't recognize it from the internal DVD player or as a file. I tried shareware Rippers but not able to import the results into iMovie.
I've looked at the PYRO Analog/DV Mac Video Capture - In & Out device at $210. This looks like it may be the only thing that works. It converts any signal to DV and then connects via Firewire to the computer. Thus I assume is readable by iMovie and may even create clips at the appropriate places.
What solutions have you found that work? Ease of use is nice but not essential. Modest price would also be nice but what do I have to do to make this work. I anticipate having additional Hi8 tapes in the future to edit then make into DVDs as well as what I have now. All help appreciated. Thanks, Ken

Check out the Canopus AVDC110 digital video converter. http://www.canopus.com/products/ADVC110/index.php?lang=EN

Downloading Hi8 video

Hi there,
I have an old Sony Video Hi8 Handycam, Model CCD-TRV58. What do I need to download/transfer my Hi8 videos onto my MacBook? I am hoping I do not need a special converter box.
Thanks!

There's a more fundamental challenge. The MacBook does not have a FireWire port, so none of the AV-DV converters is going to be usable.
You could use and Elgato EyeTV250Plus to capture the video from your camcorder (it's USB based, not FireWire). This will be fine for viewing or burning the video to DVD. It's not particularly useful if you want to edit your video, however (due to the format/codec the EyeTV converts video to). But for viewing you will be happy with the quality.

Premier Elements 8 unable to detect HI8 video camera

I am running windows 8 and have just loaded in Adobe Premiere Elements 8 and the program does not recognize my Media source which is a Sony HI8 Video camera Model CCD-TRV328 NTSC (Which is a 8mm video tape recorder). I am using Dazzle DVC100 as an interface.Is there any way I can get Elements 8 to recognize my media source>>>>

Am I correct that the Sony is an analog tape camera, and not Digital 8?
If so, then it will be the Dazzle, that PrE will need to see. Unfortunately, many users have never gotten the Dazzle units to function well. Once, Dazzle was sold by Pinnacle (might still be by Pinnacle's parent company, AVID), and usually bundled with some form of Pinnacle Studio - even when using that, many users never got the Dazzles to work. See the Pinnacle/AVID forums, to see if that has gotten better.
I would do the capture through the Pinnacle/AVID software, if you got that, and Save the captured files to DV-AVI Type II, if the Pinnacle/AVID can do that. Then, Import that into PrE for editing.
Good luck,
Hunt

Video Capture Devices?

What is a good video capture device for the macbook that I could use to capture video from my video camera(which has no firewire or USB ports on it).

Your camera is a Hi8 and is also known as "analog". I'm an editor.
Since you're camera doesn't have a FireWire port (which is what all capturing is done with), there's no way to capture without an external device, as you may know.
So, I suggest getting the Canopus ADVC-110. I have it and it works flawlessly with FCP (which is what I edit in) and it will work with iMovie also. There is also the Canopus ADVC-55. For both of these adapters, you'll need to hook up the RCA (white, red and yellow) cables to the device, and capture. Your camera should have RCA inputs. These devices are a little expensive, but they work great. No additional software/drivers. It's worth it.
Canopus ADVC-110
Canopus ADVC-55
Similar in price, personally I would get the ADVC-110.
Remember to mark as helpful or solved.
-benny

Transferring Hi8 video to iMovie to DVD

Contrary to the popular mythology that using Mac's is intuitive, mine is missing the simple single icon in iMovie "Convert Hi8 video to iMovie and then to DVD". I could hope that there would be one simple action to perform that function but having worked with computer programmers for years I know they don't think that way. I have jumped through a myriad of flaming hoops trying to convert an hour-long Hi8 video tape from my Sony digital camera to our new iMac computer and then saving it to a DVD (hopefully a DVD+R because I have a warehouse full of them). However, after numerous attempts and using our brand new Maran Illustrated user manual (whose listed icons don't match those actually found on our machine)and trial and error (with error exceeding success) I have been able to load the video onto my hard drive but can't yet burn it to a DVD. I have reached the point where a baseball bat through the monitor seems appropriate for reducing my stress and frustration. Thus to prevent a sizable casualty loss could someone please advise me of a simple, straightforward description of the steps necessary to perform the process described above. Then as soon as I can locate my missing iDVD icon from the pop-up bar at the bottom of my screen I can proceed with preserving my cherished old videos.
Sincerely,
A PC User Not Yet Convinced of the Ease of iMac Use

Hello, rocky,
Welcome to the discussions! Karsten is correct...you are a good writer!
It should not be that difficult to accomplish what you wish. Some have directly imported the Hi8 video into iMovie from their Hi8 digital camcorders. However, if yours is not digital, you will need to first capture it to DV tape and then import that into iMovie. If you already have the video in your computer, do you mean that the clips are in iMovie?
If so, you can easily view, edit, title, add music etc to your new iMovie. You can make chapter markers to create scenes in iDVD. When you are satisfied with your movie, just save it and close iMovie. Open iDVD (if the icon is missing from the dock, go to your Applications folder and find it. You can drag it into the dock again if you wish). Find the Media tab and look for 'Movies.' Your movie should be visible there looking similar to the iMovie icon. Drag your movie onto the iDVD screen. Automatically, your movie will load and you will see its title, and the options of 'Play Movie' and 'Scene Selection' (if you have made chapter markers; you won't have this option if you have not). You can customize your iDVD project with themes, changing the titles, adding photos, etc. Save whatever you like and when you are done, save the project as a disk image. That will begin the process that looks as if it is burning the DVD, but will actually create an image for you. Specify it to be saved to the desktop, or wherever you wish. You can then burn your disks from the disk image using 'Disk Utility' (found in your Utilities folder).
As far as the type of disk to use, iDVD 6 can burn to + or -, but most of us recommend DVD-R for best burning. Also, the type of media can make a big difference. Verbatim is one of the best.
Post back if you have more problems or if what I have written is not so clear...after all, it is 2am here Much better than bashing your monitor...it is not the monitor's fault....!

PCI video capture cards needed for mdd...

Hi guys,
just want to get opions about pci video capture cards out there that can be used on a MDD running either 9.2.2 or X Tiger.
I basically need to transfer old analog Hi8 video to DV format. and the default card doesn't have video in/out.
I don't might purchasing software that may be required... either old or new, or if iMovie is enough just tell me if it is required to support the HD.
thanks

Be careful to get a money back guarantee on any Avid Video capture cards. I assisted a wedding videographer who spent seventeen thousand dollars on an elaborate capture and editing system based on NuBus cards for 8100 PPCs and the company never got it to work properly without constant crashing. I am sure that Avid has gone on to produce some quality equipment based on lessons learned in the 1990s but that 8100 generation of cards was worthless.
I am interested in doing the same thing you are looking for so I will post back with what I find. Just avoid being the guinea pig for some company who does not have the details worked out.
Jim~

Lost segments during video capture

I know I've got enough horsepower to do the job, but every time I attempt video capture either from the S-video input (Hi8 camcorder)or via Firewire (DV camcorder)I get periodic breaks in the captured data. I'm not losing frames per se, I lose 2-3 second segments of the video stream every 9 to 30 seconds with no repeatable pattern that I can see.
I've tried most of the tips found on various sites, ie. eliminating background tasks and registry fiddling with only some improvement.
I've tried the following software:
Intervideo Winproducer
Intervideo Wincinema
Sonic MyDVD
Arcsoft Showbiz
Any help, ideas welcome.
BTW, thanks to the posters here. I've found solutions to a number of problems and some good ideas in the few days I've been lurking here.

On one of my older systems, I've experienced same problem. It was solved by disabling USB in BIOS (I don't have much explanation for this, maybe a strange driver).
On the other hand, try iuVCR (http://www.iulabs.com they could pay me for advertising :D ), it's the only application I've used, able to capture in divx on the fly without loosing frames (of course it depends on cpu frequency, I have athlon 1ghz, capturing 352x288, but on 2.4ghz 640x480 is ok)
Costin

White bar across video capture

After extensive searching across this most amazing forum (I'm bookmarking this and I'll be back (with austrian accent)) I found something close to my problem.
After updating my system with all the latest drivers I still have a problem with video capture from my camcorder. I can get the capture to work fine but it shows a horizontal white bar across the replay. I thought it might have been some kind of censor algorithm as it was of a naughty video of my wife and I but after tryin 8 different capture programs and installing and reinstalling trying other very tame family videos the white bar would appear and disappear randomly no matter what I captured.
In a post from Ayrsayle at the end of which he said
"One last hint: The 1.12 drivers and up have Macrovision built in so if you copy commercial tapes or DVDs you'll get a white bar across the image. It can be fixed this way:
Get a copy of the 1.08 drivers (you can web search for them). Extract 1.08 drivers to a new folder, and replace Nvcap.sys and Nvcap.inf *only* in the Windows directories(do file find on C:/windows to locate them) with the 1.08 versions. Reboot. Problem solved. I just found this tonight.
I hope some of this helps, I've had to tear my hair out as well over the past month upon getting this card! "
Well my problem is it's not a commercial video I'm capturing (Well at least not yet!).
My other problem is I'm having trouble locating the past drivers.
Can anybody help me?
Thanks
James :(

:O X( I'm trying to capture my home videos off of my sharp hi8 video camera.
I'd like to know how the F*&$%ers at Macrovision found a way to copyright my family reuion!
If I ever meet one of them I'm going to tear him a new a**hole
and the other thing is why do I have to spend over a week trying to find what the problem was and now spend more money (of course what the f*@% was I thinking) to fix something that shouldnt even be there.
I'm going to leave a message with MSI and if I don't have an answer by tomorrow evening when I log on again, someone is going to get a video card inserted in a slot they never expected
By the way. I did a search of this forum and other than going back to an old driver(which i spent the last 3 hours of my life that I'll never get back) which didn't work NO ONE HAS SATISFACTORILY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION!
What happened to the other guys did they give up?

Pinnacle Video Capture for Mac

After talking with a bunch of salesmen (considering getting a DvD writer), I took the advice of someone in the Apple Store and bought a Pinnacle Video Capture for Mac to copy my laserdiscs. It was $100 before tax, and didn't do stuff I don't plan on doing anyway. I did spend another $25 to get an S-video cable.
I installed the software and connected it up to my LD. I started capturing the movie, and selected S-Video (although in the small window they showed, I didn't see any difference between that and video out. I selected a max time from a limited selection, and let it record.
After a while, I went downstairs and saw that the audio and video were not synchronized at all. I let it continue.
After a while I came down again, and the movie was finished, so I stopped it. I found the MP4 - it was in the iTunes movie directory, and played it in iTunes. I fast-forwarded it to near the end, the voice and video were way off-set.
I haven't tried burning this yet.
Quicktime player doesn't think this is a valid movie file. I selected "open with" and "other" and the recommended applications had iMovie greyed out.
Why in the world would the audio and video record at different speeds?
Do I have to buy software to edit the movie down to the correct size?
My Mac has:
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac7,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM71.007A.B03
SMC Version: 1.21f4
I noticed the Pinacle Video Capture program was still running, so I tried to quit it, and got a window asking for my administrator ID and passsword to allow Pinnacle Video Capture to make changes. Why?

The audio drifted out of sync because the Dazzle doesn't support locked audio. For short videos (say, under 10 minutes) this won't be very noticeable but when you capture longer videos it becomes progressively worse over time.
What do you want to do with your Laserdisk copies? Watch them on your iPod? Edit and/or burn to DVD?
A device like the Canopus ADVC-110 will do the video/audio conversion properly, keeping the audio and video in sync regardless of the length of your video. It converts to DV, not to MP4, and you would use it with iMovie or Final Cut (not iTunes). However you can export your video from iMovie or Final Cut to iPod/AppleTV formats.
The Dazzle device will not work directly with iMovie or Final Cut.
ps. If all you really want to do is transfer your Laserdisc videos to DVDs, it will be a whole lot faster & simpler to get a DVD player/recorder that has analog inputs and record directly to DVDs. There are many brands & models to choose from and many good ones are as inexpensive as the $100 you spent on the Pinnacle converter.

Elgato video capture versus digital 8 camcorder to import hi 8 movies

Hi!
I have hi 8 video tapes which i want to import into my MacBook.
I would like to work on them with iMovie 09, cut them, set titles etc. put music on and so on.
Earlier I plugged my hi 8 camcorder into my panasonic DMR E85H dvd recorder with built in hdd.
Then i importet them via handbrake into my MacBook.
Then i importet them into iMovie 08 an did some cutting and so on.
Then i recognized, that there where horizontal interferences in the movie.
On the dvds the video is ok!
It doesn´t matter if i play the videos in Quicktime or in iTunes or iMovie.
If i would use a Elgato Video Capture to import or a digital 8 camcorder to import the videos to my MacBook would i be able to get a better result?
Which one should i prefer - i have to buy each of them!
Would the size of the camcorder-imported videos be bigger then with the Elgato device?
Now i´m using iMovie 09.
Thanks a lot for helping me out!

Based on your comments about horizontal interferences, it may be that you are seeing interlace artifacts. The solution may be to deinterlace the clips.
You might try checking the settings in handbrake to deinterlace.
You might also take the clip you have produced in HB and deinterlacing using a free tool like MPEG Streamclip or JES Deinterlacer.
Your MPEG2 on DVD is already compressed from the original on tape. Then HandBrake decompresses and recompresses it to h.264. You generally want to cut out compression steps in your workflow whenever possible, because each generation of compression will introduce noise and loss.
You could also reimport from DVD using MPEG Streamclip (and the Apple QuickTime MPEG2 Playback Component). You could deinterlace at this step if needed.
You could certainly import through a camcorder with passthru capability. It will be DV which will be a very high data rate and potentially high quality, but it will never be higher quality than the underlying analog material. But you will have eliminated a compression step so you will be closer to the original.
ElGato products will certainly work as well. I use the ElGato EyeTV hybrid to capture from a VHS Deck, as well as to record high definition TV shows. My ElGato will capture to MPEG2, although the newer models may capture directly to MPEG4 (not sure). You would then use the ElGato software to export to iMovie in an editable format such as h.264 or Apple Intermediate Codec.

Detecting Video Capture Devices without Installing JMF

Hi All,
I want to detect the video capture devices, without installing the JMF.
I had included the jmf (windows version) in lib path in netbeans ide. I am able to detect the audio capture device. But unable to detect the video capture devices. But if I install the JMF, I am able to detect the Video Capture devices in My system. Can anyone help me?
Thanks,
Vinoth Kumar.

YES! Please take a look at SIP Communicator project. They have all what u want.
The main idea is copy all .dll files to System or System32 (Please check files which JMF will copy to ur computer and where).
U need to have jmf.jar and sound.jar too ( maybe more) in your computer.
Your program should have DirectSoundAuto.java, JavaSoundAuto.java, JavaSoundDetector.java, JMFInit.java. Those files are in JMStudio source code. They are used to detect all capture devices and register it to JMF, but wait !!! where they will be saved? In order to save information about capture devices which are detected, you should create "jmf.properties" file in the same location with jmf.jar.Therefore, u should modify the JMFInit.java so it can check if the "jmf.properties" exists. If it's not, you have to create it.
Check SIP Communicator at Folder "media" then "device". They have modified those files I mentioned above and created some new files to SC can detect more devices.
Edited by: tamngminh on Sep 16, 2008 9:50 AM

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