Hidden Version Sets

When I have only "landscape" tagged photos (for example) shown in the organizer and try to expand a version set, PSE5 says I need to "go back to all photos". This is fine except that I have version sets that are tagged "hidden". Try to expand these; go back to all photos; of course they're not there. Any work around?
Thanks

I think the only workaround is to make the version set un-hidden. If you have a lot of these, you could create a tag Other > Formerly Hidden, assign that tag to all the hidden photos, remove the Hidden tag. When you're done, select all photos with the Other > Formerly Hidden tag and make them hidden again. Pretty klutzy.
This wart was fixed in PSE 6.

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This is odd . Did you tried with clean preferences. To clean preferences go to "Edit Menu>PReferences>General" and click the button "Reset Preferences on next launch". Relaunch PSE.
This is not new, already several posts on this forum and one bug report:
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/save_in_version_set_not_working_in_p se12
See:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5766588#5766588
Today's state of the problem seems to be that this happens not only with saving in version sets in PSE12, but also on simple saves with 'include in the organizer' checked.
It happens on previously converted catalogs, not on new ones.
It happens when the process 'elementsautoanalyzer.exe' is running (you can 'kill' it from the Windows task bar, but you must do it every time you start the organizer. Deleting or renaming this file seems to work.)
This seems also to be a problem for people using the 'watched folders'.
So, to prevent the problem : kill the elementsautoanalyzer.exe every time you start the organizer.
To recover the edited files not included in the catalog, do a manual 'get photos and videos' from the already gotten files.
It's important to do so, otherwise the edited files won't be catalogued and be missing if you do a backup.
If necessary, use the automatic stacking feature by visual similarity to stack your originals with your edited versions, since you can't create version sets.
If you can share your experience on the above feedback link, please do it and add your vote.

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