Hide run-time prompt in composite data form in 11.1.2

Hi, I am using Planning 11.1.2, and the rule with run-time prompt I attached to a composite data from can't execute successfully when I selected "Hide Prompt" and "Use Members on data form". It says "An error occurred while attempting to run the following business rule on save". But if I set this rule to be run on save in a single data form, not a composite one, the rule could be run successfully. Is this a bug or does anyone know how to solve this? Thank you.
Regards,
Jerry

Hi, I had the same problem and I did a Service Request to Oracle. This is a bug. Unfortunatly, I do not think there is a solution to fix this problem.
The 11.1.2.1 version fixes this bug.
Virgile.

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