High Fan speeds and draining battery

Have any of you experienced this? Plug in the MPB when the battery is close to drained (10%). From that point onwards, till it charges to about 30% (some times beyond that to about 50%), the fans roar (literally) at close to 6000 rpm (and most of the time it is more than 4500 rpm). The laptop becomes an embarrassment to use, particularly because I use it (most of the time) in front of customers (typically CxOs). When this happens, the health of the battery is sharply eroded, and I need to replace the battery every 4-6 months.
Support from Apple is whole different story.
Thank you!

See KB Article: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1411 Apple Portables: Resetting the System Management Controller (SMC)
*Yes, tried that. Does not help.*
That is unacceptable. Have you been calibrating your battery per your user manual instructions? See KB Articles: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1490 Apple Portables: Calibrating your computer's battery for best performance
*Yes, I have tried this. I was asked to do this at the Genius Bar after the first battery was replaced.*
*Battery Information. Please note that this is a 4 month old battery. I got this as a replacement from the Apple store.*
*Model Information:*
*Manufacturer: SMP*
*Device name: ASMB012*
*Pack Lot Code: 0002*
*PCB Lot Code: 0000*
*Firmware Version: 0110*
*Hardware Revision: 0500*
*Cell Revision: 0200*
*Charge Information:*
*Charge remaining (mAh): 3076*
*Fully charged: No*
*Charging: Yes*
*Full charge capacity (mAh): 4962*
*Health Information:*
*Cycle count: 155*
*Condition: Normal*
*Battery Installed: Yes*
*Amperage (mA): 1548*
*Voltage (mV): 12260*
*Details please. Need to know what tech support had you do so that the users here in trying to help you do not get the "been there, done that" type of responses from you. The more information/details you provide in what you have done in trying to solve your problem, the better the knowledgeable users here can better serve you.*
*This is a problem I have experienced for about 18 months now. AppleCare expired late last year (2010). When it was in warranty, Apple replaced 3 batteries (from what I first reported the problem till AppleCare expired). Lots of parts (logic board, heat sensors etc., apart from the battery) changed. Things I have tried:*
*1. System Controller Reset as described above.*
*2. Battery use best practices (as described above)*
*3. Complete system diagnostics run by Apple*
*4. Reinstall OS on multiple occasions*
*Other Observations:*
*1. Finder consumes more than 80% CPU when this happens, please note reinstall of OS does not help*
*2. CPU Temp is upwards of 70 deg C when this happens. My normal CPU tep is upwards of 60 deg C.*
*3. GPU diode temp is above 70 deg C as well. My normal GPU diode temp is usually close to or above 70 deg C.*
*4. No other applications running. So, Firefox, Office for Mac etc are all closed. Only apps open are usually Activity Monitor and Adium. Adium does not seem to make any difference.*
*Finally, how does one connect with Apple Customer Relations? I see just Customer Service, which is support. I do not see any escalation point beyond that.*
*Regarding Support:*
*1. Apple Store support has been cosmetic in this instance. Replace battery was the solution on the first two occasions.*
*2. Replace a lot of parts in the computer was the next option. See above for what was replaced.*
*3. Over the past few weeks, it has been get Capture Data information.*
*4. This problem started about 18 months before the AppleCare expired. Now, AppleCare has expired, but I do get help from Apple because it was a problem I reported when in warranty.*
*However, I am not sure any one ever did a root cause analysis on this issue to start with. The result is a frequent trip to the Apple store, not to mention hours spent trying to get a solution.*

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    03:01.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 04)
    03:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21)
    03:01.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 11)
    03:01.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 11)
    09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5761e Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
    0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300
    output of sensors, idle:
    acpitz-virtual-0
    Adapter: Virtual device
    temp1:        +45.5°C  (crit = +107.0°C)
    coretemp-isa-0000
    Adapter: ISA adapter
    Core 0:       +51.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
    Core 1:       +51.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
    Core 2:       +48.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
    Core 3:       +46.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
    output of sensors when I start interacting (light browsing, mail, chat):
    acpitz-virtual-0
    Adapter: Virtual device
    temp1:        +59.5°C  (crit = +107.0°C)
    coretemp-isa-0000
    Adapter: ISA adapter
    Core 0:       +63.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
    Core 1:       +63.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
    Core 2:       +62.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
    Core 3:       +63.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
    When I start the laptop, its CPU fan stays at its minimal speed only for 1 or 2 minutes, then increases its rotation speed to a second level. It reaches it maximal speed only under heavy load, when the CPU reaches >80-95°C. I would rather let the CPU run a bit hotter before the fan starts to blow: let's say the fan could enter its intermediary speed between 70°C and 85°C instead of 55-80°C, and blow at is its maximum speed beyond that.
    I checked the Fan Speed Control wiki page, but lm-sensors is not able to show me the status of the fans. Any idea ?
    Aurel.
    PS: the temperature of the GPU is not reported by sensors, and nvidia-settings reports around 60°C. Its dedicated fan is very quiet.

    aurelieng wrote:
    Hi all,
    I have a Dell Precision M6400 17" laptop. It runs really well on Arch, but is a bit noisy. It has always been noisy, btw, but I recently noticed that the CPU fan was blowing a lot of air even though the CPU temperature is lower than 70°C. I also have a macbook air, and its CPU runs at 70°C all the time, which seems to be normal. I would like my m6400 to behave similarly, and I'm sure someone here know how to change that
    Hi aurelieng,
    I'm in the same situation from at least 1 month ( INTEL CORE 2 EXTREME X9100, 3.06GHz with 8GB ram, one solid state disk 128 GB, and one sata disk 500GB)
    My dell M6400 has dual boot: ubuntu and windows7. The fan works a lot and continuosly in both environment and this is the reason because I have doubt that the origin of the problem is in hardware problem?
    output of sensors when I start interacting (light browsing, mail, chat):
    acpitz-virtual-0
    Adapter: Virtual device
    temp1:        +41.5°C  (crit = +107.0°C)
    coretemp-isa-0000
    Adapter: ISA adapter
    Core 0:       +41.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
    Core 1:       +41.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
    Last edited by ginard (2012-11-16 18:09:19)

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