High ISO color changes between LR and PS?

So I came across this anomaly after taking some test shots. There's a pretty drastic shift in colors when I bring a high ISO RAW from LR into PS and then save it to bring it back into LR. This file hasn't been edited, just saved as a tif through PS. Changing my working profile does nothing, and I don't think it's calibration related because it doesn't happen with my lower ISO (3200-) pictures. What I do know is it's being converted from 24 bit to 48 bit depth and changing color representation from sRGB to uncalibrated. From researching, I understand that the file info stating 'uncalibrated'  just means that there is an embedded profile (which is what LR shows). Something is going on, but my attempts to fix it haven't worked. I've tried adjusting profiles (LR/PS are matched btw), assigning profiles, converting to profiles, and my monitor is callibrated. In detail, here is the issue I'm seeing:
LR RAW > PS TIF - everything is awesome > TIF LR - goes bad
Re-import tif edit to PS - everything is awesome again
Export tif edit from LR to JPG - looks like it does in LR (bad)
Export same tif edit from PS to JPG - looks like it does in PS (perfectly fine)
I just can't wrap my head around why this is only happening with high ISO images. Originally I suspected my monitor profile, but can't see how that would make sense if everything below 3200 ISO looks perfect between both programs. Is the tiff doing something with the noise? Is LR missing some information in the tiff? Is this to be expected? It basically seems to be diluting the contrast/vibrancy, which is easy enough to fix, but a bit of an annoyance anyway.

SpottedMeLR wrote:
That's what I was trying to show with my examples. The issue I have with this is the reliance of having to use it to get identical colour results. I don't necessarily want to remove noise that I don't find is all that visible in the first place (without pixel peeping). I get okay results with milder luminance noise removal and extreme sharpening, but it's still something I don't think should *have to* to be done in every high ISO image.
Even when shooting below ISO 3200 where this LR anomaly doesn't occur  you should be applying both Color and Luminance NR. My 21Mp full-frame Canon 5D MKII "default" NR setting is Luminance 0 and Color 15, and at ISO 3200 I typically use Luminace 25 and Color 25, or higher. Feel free to change any of your default settings in LR using Develop> Set Default Settings on the toolbar. You can also create Develop Presets for 'High ISO' images using Develop>New Preset. Make as many as you need based on your shooting needs. You can also quickly adjust one (1) image file and apply a unique NR setting across all the images shot at the same high ISO setting using Settings>Copy Settings and Paste Settings or 'Sync' button at the bottom of the Develop tools panel. Check just Noise Reduction>Color & Luminance in the Synchronize Settings' panel. And yes, a 1:1 (100%) view is the only way you should be making NR and Sharpening adjustments in LR.......they will only look better at lower view settings.
SpottedMeLR wrote:
Stubborn, maybe? I try to shoot below 3200 as well, but it's nice to be able to keep my options open when need be and know I won't run into oddities like this when it comes to editing. Am I asking too much?
IMHO - Why not properly use these tools in LR all of the time, since it can be done for you almost automatically.

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