High noise on line?

Hello I use to have a sync rate of 8128kbps and a lower noise margin but for nearly 3 weeks my sync rate has been 7648kbps and my noise margin has been 15.4dB.
Is there anything I can do to put it back to normal?
thanks
Thanks

Can you really tell any difference between 7.6M and 8.1M when using the internet? My speed varies randomly between about 6.4M and 7.3M each time the Hub reconnects. I gave up caring about it long ago because it makes no difference to me.
You may find that interleaving has been turned on. This may happen if your line has been accumulating too many errors recently. This doesn't make much difference to the overall speed, but does increase ping times as packets are buffered. My line has a high error rate, and I don't play online games, so interleaving is good for me. It may not be for you. It is possible to get it turned off, but don't expect it to be easy.
Ultimately, ADSL is a technological bodge that should never work - it requires sending high frequencies over telephone lines that weren't designed to carry them. The fact that it works at all is a minor miracle. However it does mean that even a tiny loss in line quality can reduce the connection speed. Unless the loss is substantial, BT won't be interested in fixing it.

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    Line attenuation (Down/Up):
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    Output power (Down/Up):
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    CRC Events (Down/Up):
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    Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
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    Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
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