High Sea Sales scenarion?
Hi,
Can somebody please describe the High Sea Sales scenarion in actual and its mapping in the SAP on the transactional level.
Thanks
Rajiv
hi,
If Sales to be done in Sea itself and you do not want to post the material in to inventory. But you require to make Sales invoice.
You would be giving purchase orders and selling it to the customers by endorsing the documents (Shipping bill ).
There would not be any material quantity updating (no quantity should reflect in the system as per legal requirement). Only value updating will take place.
It is like taking commission for the sales without disclosing the vendors details to the customers.
saravanan
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Configure PO document type for "High sea Sale"
Dear sir,
Pl. tell me step by step how can i configure new Document type of Purchase order for "High sea Sale" business senerio without GR.
Thanks/
AnuragHi,
In normal case, when you do GR w.r.t. a Normal PO then system updates Stock Quantity as well as Stock Value of Material.
But in case of High Seas PO, you don't want GR to happen, you want to carry out LIV directly based on PO. So in this case there won't be Stock Quantity updation as well as Stock Value updation i.e. Expense Account will get psted during LIV against Vendor Account. So your High Seas PO should be account assigned PO.
So to achieve this, create a separate document type for High Seas PO with allowed Item Category as Blank" i.e. Standard.
Path: - SPRO > MM > Purchasing > Purchase Order > Define Document Types
OME9 - Create an Account Assignment Category as "Z" (High Seas PO) by copying "K" and in the detailed screen of the same deactivate "Goods Receipt" indicator.
Now create PO with this Document Type and Account Assignment Category "Z" and check under "Delivery" Tab Page, "Goods Receipt" indicator will be deactivated that means GR not required for this PO. -
Business model mapping query (High sea sales) - automatic credit control cn
Our Client imports goods(chemicals & liquids) in bulk... on ships .. (to india)
It sells (the sale is made) before the ship enters the indian waters (territory).. (on the sea itself)
Practically this is what happens: (HIGH SEA SALES)
Invoice is done ( with all the statutary docts), as soon as the sales order is created. Lastly, the delivery happens.
Now, the client wants automatic credit check at DELIVERY LEVEL. ( After the invoicing is done, legally the goods belong to the customer, but our client wants to have a control on delivery, if at all any payment issue arise....
How to do this?
any ideas?
Rgds
Sumanth.GururajHi,
Please go through this
Settings for determining the credit control area of a document. The settings of items 1 - 4 are taken into account according to their priority. The credit control area found is stored in field VBAK-KKBER.
1. Transaction OB38
Check which credit control area is assigned to the company code.
Company code:
Credit control area:
2. Transaction OVFL
Check which credit control area is assigned to the sales area.
Sales area:
Credit control area:
3. Transaction XD02 or VD02
Check which credit control area is assigned to the payer.
Payer:
Credit control area:
4. Transaction SE37
Is user exit EXIT_SAPV45K_001 being used?
5. Transaction OBZK
For the settings under items 2 - 4, field "All company codes" must be marked in Transaction
OB45, or the credit control area must be entered under the relevant company code in table T001CM of the credit control areas allowed.
Company code:
Credit control areas allowed:
6. Settings for the credit checks
7. Transaction OVAK
Which settings do exist for the sales document type used?
Sales document:
Check credit:
Credit group:
8. Transaction OVAD
Which settings do exist for the delivery type used?
Delivery type:
Credit group for delivery:
Credit group for goods issue:
9. Transaction OB01
Credit management/Change risk category
Definition of the risk category for each credit control area. This risk category can be assigned to a credit account by using Transaction FD32.
10. Transaction OVA8
Here, the individual credit checks for key fields
o credit control area
o risk category
o credit group are set. Take these key fields from the above settings and go to the detail screen. In particular, check whether fields "Reaction" and "Status/block" are set correctly. To carry out follow-up actions in case of a credit block, the credit check status must be set (field "Status/block").
11. Transaction FD32
Credit master data for the payer of the relevant document.
Credit account:
Credit limit:
Risk category:
Currency:
12. Settings for updating the credit values Update of the credit values is required for the limit check (static or dynamic credit limit check).
13. Transaction OVA7
Update of the credit value is active for the corresponding item type if the check box is marked. This field corresponds to
field "Active receivable" in Transaction VOV7.
Item type:
Active receivable:
14. Transaction V/08, Pricing
In the pricing procedure used for pricing, subtotal "A" must be entered in a line for determining the credit value (mark the pricing procedure and doubleclick on "Control").
Usually, the net value plus taxes is used. This way the system is determined to use this subtotal for credit pricing. The credit price is stored in field VBAP-CMPRE and used for update and credit check.
You can find the used pricing procedure of the order under "Item -> Condition -> Analysis".
Pricing procedure:
Line with subtotal = 'A':
15. Transaction OB45
Which update group (field "Update") do you use in the relevant credit control area? The default setting is "12". If you use another update group, check whether this is fine with you. If you open an OSS message, please tell us the alternative update group.
Credit control area:
Update:
16. Transaction OMO1
Which kind of update did you choose for structure S066?
In any case, "Synchronous update (1)" has to be chosen as the kind of update. All other settings will lead to errors.
I hope this will resolve your issue
Thanks
Anil Hooda -
Hi all,
Can anybody give the documents related to E1/E2 Process and High Sea sale Process.Hi
For High Seas sales ,
PR will be created based on the Sales Order, Create PO based on PR and do MIGO for that PO.
Points to keep is
- the Import Vendor currency as Local currecny ( ie INR for India ),
- Do MIGO for that PO witha Storage Location exclusively created for this High Seas sales Process.
( sales acn issue the material from that SLoc )
Regards -
Hi All,
If the port of discharge of high sea sales comes under one registration and the high sea billing is done under some other registration.. is it legally right?
regards,
ArchanaHello
No. it will be a custom issue.
Thanks & Regards
JP -
Dear Experts,
The issue is to map the scenario for High Sea Sales for my Client.It is as follows..
1.We will issue import order to our vendor (imported vendor)for purchase of raw material.
2.We will issue order at the rate of USD 2600 per MT FOB china port.
3.Suppose 100Mt of raw material is shipped from china and we pay immediately to our import vendor in dollars.We also pay ocean freight USD 50/- per MT to our shipping agent.
4. So we enter into an high seas sale agreement with our customer for sale of material ie a Raw material @ USD 2750/- per MT CIF.
5.My client want to book purchase of raw material in our accounting records (but without bringing the material in our stock).
6.Similarly client wish to book sales @2750/-USD without movement of material from there plant.
Kindly let me know the procedure that is to be followed in SAP for capturing the entire transaction,as i am very new to this scenario.
Regards
Nainesh
SAP ECC 6.0Hi
If your PO is raised before the sales order then it would be difficult.
If your raising of the sales order is against a demand from a customer then this can be easily mapped through the Third Party scenario using TAS item category in the sales order.
Whena sales order is created then a PR get generated with account assignment of sales order.
when you do the goods receipt of this PO the stcok will be directly delivered to the customer. the system simulates the posting as the stock has entered and leaved your premises in determining the accounts for posting, but physically we have not received that. So it will be a statistical posting only.
Please go through link for more details
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60/helpdata/en/4d/2b91be43ad11d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
thanks & Regards
KK -
Hi SAP Fans,
Can any one help to map Purchase from High Sea Sales in SAP.hi
http://sap.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/sap-log-sd/high-sea-sales-1890425
just check following scenario (not tested)
Check and review Purchase Requisition For apo planing-ME5A/ME51N
Release Purchase Requisition -ME54N
Create Purchase Order -ME21N
Release Purchase Order -ME29N
Down payment request PO -F-47
Advance Payment to Vendor -F-48
Create Inbound delivery -VL31N
Goods Receipt against Purchase Order -MIGO
UD and stock posting -QA32
Check Stock Overview MMBE
Logistics Invoice Verification MIRO
Post out going payment to vendor F-53 -
Hi expert pls. guide me about the High Sea sale scenario/process....
thanks,I found this on the Pricing procedure determination:
Price determination
If you wish to use partner roles for price determination purposes, SAP provides the enhancement LMEKO001 (customer exit EXIT_SAPLMEKO_001).
You can then create a partner role "forwarder", for example, so that the freight charges of different carriers or forwarding agents can be taken into account in the purchase price determination process. -
High sea sale business process deviation problem?
Hi all,
In my client eventhough material sold through high sea sale (and concerned invoice is raised), some times customer will not lift the material,
Now original high sea sale transaction (third party scenario) till customer billing is completed, after this out of this transaction whichever is not the lifted material from the client even after selling, they need a tracking system to count how many customer material is lying with them. and they wanted to issue delivery challan against it again, kindly suggest me is this suggestible and what are the auditing complications involved in it?
regards,
SanjanaHi
For High Seas sales ,
PR will be created based on the Sales Order, Create PO based on PR and do MIGO for that PO.
Points to keep is
- the Import Vendor currency as Local currecny ( ie INR for India ),
- Do MIGO for that PO witha Storage Location exclusively created for this High Seas sales Process.
( sales acn issue the material from that SLoc )
Regards -
Inventory sometimes coming to our place in high sea sales scenario?
Dear Experts,
Here we have mapped the high sea sales scenario through third party sales process.
here in this process since the documents are endorsed on the name of customers when the shipment is sailing only, so here we have to do only statistical GR where in client's inventory will not be updated as per standard third party scenario, but here some times goods are stored at client's plot ( which was hired at port) and the shipment for the same starts after 5 days or so.
under such situations client is asking us to show the inventory like third party stocks. To deal with this kindly suggest your suggestions so that this can be adressed by taking legal points of high sea sales agreement in mind.
Balu R.VHi Balakrishna,
If clients asking you tshow the stock which is only possible when if carry out GR in the respective plant in that ase only stco will show or in othe way is in STO stock will as in transist. Without doing GR how the stock will updated /Show.
But you can Map with creation of Logical plant which i uite normal in Bonded storage process as and when required pay the duty and release the material which bulk purchase and material will be stored at Cutom as and when reqyured pay the Duty and receipt the material through STO in the same way you can map.
1) You can create Port as a plant
2) For high sea material tracking ,recieve the material through MIGO -Movement type 103 (No acunting documents will generate)
3) MIRO for Customs dept
4) MIGO 105 at port plant to recieve the material at Port( accounting documents for inventory will generate )
5) MIRO for Import Vendor
6) perform STO from port to manufacturing plant. Hope this will helps you. -
Hi,
in high sea sales -3 party processing
when we do migo - only value updation takes place without any quantity updation.what setting we need to do to achieve thisHi,
The process is similar to a PO with account assignment.
Csaba
Not similar, the same.
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Sep 17, 2008 1:49 PM -
High Sea Sales mapping in delivery from projects
Hi,
I have got a typical scenario where in delivery is supposed to be thru PS.
Quotation consists of only the predefined Costing heads (non-deliverable & in line items) against which unit cost estimate is made using BPOs. After receipt of order the quotation is copied to create Sales Order and WBS elements are assigned at line item.
Deliverable materials are assigned at each WBS level in the designated Project and wrt the Sales Order, deliveries are created and billed. Pricing of the delivered materials is carried out in the billing doc.
There is a scenario in which imported materials originally planned to be sold from stock and whose delivery was to be created from projects is now converted to HSS.
Request to advise how to map this business process.
Regards,
Rajesh MohapatraHi Rakesh,
1. When we do delivery thru CNS0 it Dr- FG Consumption /ac and Cr-FG Stock a/c. Suppose if i have to take this Dr-COGS-Fg and Cr-Fg Stock a/c. will you please suggest the necessary customization steps and user transactions.
2. In our scenario we have done delivery through CNS0. When we do billing, we are getting an error that Profitability segment is not derived for GL (revenue). I have checked the relevant derivation rules which looks correct. Do u have any idea how to maintain derivation rule to derive WBS element?
3. In other scenario, intstead of opting PS. We have followed: 1. Cretaed SO (with WBS). 2. MD04- Cretaed Planned Order 3. Converted Planned order to Process Order 4.Goods Issue and confirmation of process order 5.VL01N-Delivery (601 E).
While doing delivery we r getting an error that create GL (FG-COGS) as Cost element. This is GL is mapped to GBB-VAX.we have for GBB-VAY with cost elemnt. Do we have to create this GL also as cost element? why system is not picking from GBB-VAY? any idea
Regards,
Babu -
Dear all,
I just would like to know the option available for mapping the below scenario.
Stocks will received against the Import PO at a port (Ex: Chennai) and stocks will be considered as taken in to stocks then sales order can be created and supplies will be made from this location, but when i want to re direct the stocks to a customer with out receiving at the port.
There is a process to map this requirement, can any one help me with document or provide the link as how to go ahead.
Thanks & Regards,
SrinuSrinu,
As per my understanding of process, yours can be achieved by the process " CUSTOM Bonded Warehouse: process.
Search the forum and you will get a lot of threads for custome bonded warehouse.
Thanks,
Raja -
I have raised Purchase Order to Vendor A in INR & vendor A procures from Foreign vendor B . Vendor A will give customs duty to Vendor B. Now vendor A will sale me the goods overseas to avoid sales tax in India . He will pass on the customs duty to me. How shall i map this in SAP? Please let me know the Steps & also Excise Scenario
johnCreate a purchase order againt Vendor A with all customs related condition types. Process this transaction as a normal import purchase order.
Steps -
PO
Commercial invoice for customs
Capture Excise
GR
Post Excise
or
PO
Commercial invoice for customs
GR
Capture &Post Excise
Reward if helpful
Rajesh -
Hi,
How we have to perform highsea purchase (inclusion of Import duties) in domestic scenario.
Regards
MohanFirst of all why you want this scenario to be incorportaed in Domestic Pricing?
I suggest you to include this in the Imported Pricing structure.
During High Sea sales their is a contract value. If the contract value is higher then assesable value then all duties will be applicable on contract values only and if less then on assesable value.
You have to maintain a condition type for manual entry of contract value and all the taxes will be applicable on this value only. Assign this condition type an access sequence so that it is considered only during specific requirement.
If you have some specific requirement please mention in detail
Enjoyyyyyyyyy
Akshit
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