High Temps On rMBP (Early 2013)

Hello,
     I have recently been concerned with the temperatures on my Macbook Pro Retina (Early 2013 15", 2.7Ghz i7, 16GB Ram, 500GB SSD). Temperatures at idle are averaging around 55 degrees Celsius. I am using iStat Menus and Temperature Gauge to determine the CPU temperature. Doing daily tasks like Safari, Mail, and iTunes gives me zero fan noise, but temperatures around 70 degrees celsius. Also while doing these tasks the CPU temperature will spike randomly to 95 degrees celsius and greater, sometimes to the 102-105 celsius range. Fan speed does not increase when these spikes occur. Temperature becomes a major issue when using programs such as Handbrake and other converters. While converting, temperatures stay around 97 degrees celsius. I know high temperatures are normal when doing such tasks, but I feel like this might be a little too high. When playing games such as Diablo 3, temperatures stay at a steady 98-105 degrees celsius. Those temperatures occur even when the fans are tuned to the highest using iStat Menus fan control feature. I have reset the SMC and had the same issues. I have not had any system crashes due to temperature, but these temperatures seem out of the norm with what most things I have read have said about rMBP temperature.
     Are these temperatures too high and out of the norm? Should I bring the machine to an Apple Store? Am I just being paranoid? I could cook eggs and bacon on the aluminum when doing CPU intensive tasks with these temperatures.
Any and all help is appreciated!
P.S. The machine also has some pretty intense image retention. Using the image retention website (http://www.marco.org/rmbp-irtest.html), I can get retention within only 30 seconds of the test.
Zach

I got exactly the MacBook pro Retina couple of days go (Early 2013 15", 2.4Ghz i7, 8GB Ram, 256GB) with exactly the same problem...
impossible to keep it in my lap, and the only thing i did was to view 1080p Panasonic video as to check the quality of the retina display.
I am extremely frustrated, disappointed and it feels that I burned my money on the MBP, a total waste of money.
Going through the discussions in this site it is obvious that the problem has been known for a long time and seems that Apple does nothing to fix it (or is,indeed, extremely slow).
What is the point of having a "laptop type" Mac, which is a potential health hazard if it is placed on one's lap? 

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    Thanks

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    Thunderbolt - Performance was about 10MB/s faster than mid 2012 (there may have been something wrong with the thunderbolt port independently)
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    GPU Temp - same as CPU test - 2013 running cooler but only by 3*C
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  • This is what worked for me to install 8.1 Pro on brand new rmbp late 2013 NO WORKAROUND

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  • Memory leakage Macbook pro retina 15inch Early 2013

    Hi,
    This is my first posting to the Apple community, so please forgive me if have missed a previous posting on this subject.
    I have an early 2013 15 inch MBPro retina running 8 gigs.  My previous device was a MBpro 15 early 2008 4 gigs of ram.  I never expected the 2013 with double the ram to be constantly dropping below 2 gigs with only FireFox and/or MS word running.   The older 2008 device used only 2 gigs to run these programs.  It appears that the 2013 model is using 6 gigs.
    I took the 2013 15 inch  MBpro retina to the Apple store for the Geniuses to run their diagnostics.  They said my device was running normally.  To prove such, they simultaneously opened Jim Carrey's web site 8 times and showed me that all of his the crazy stuff was working in each window.  They said that it is normal for a SSD machine to run on low memory.
    Unfortunately, it has been my experience that when my memory drops when just using my normal Firefox based surfing,  my track pad scrolling starts to get very sluggish until my "memory clean" kicks in at 1.6 gigs and brings the memory up to around  2.5 gigs.  As I continue to surf, then the process repeats itself.  I never expected my old 2008 device to use significantly less ram running light applications better than my new 2013 device. 
    I have seen others post an "EtreCheck" and hopefully by posting mine, somebody can find what the Apple Geniuses could not.
    Thank you for your help!!
    EtreCheck version: 2.0.11 (98)
    Report generated November 18, 2014 at 7:09:33 PM EST
    Hardware Information: ℹ️
        MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013) (Verified)
        MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro10,1
        1 2.4 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 4-core
        8 GB RAM Not upgradeable
            BANK 0/DIMM0
                4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
            BANK 1/DIMM0
                4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
        Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported
        Wireless:  en0: 802.11 a/b/g/n
    Video Information: ℹ️
        Intel HD Graphics 4000 -
            Color LCD spdisplays_2880x1800Retina
        NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M - VRAM: 1024 MB
    System Software: ℹ️
        OS X 10.10.1 (14B25) - Uptime: 20:14:22
    Disk Information: ℹ️
        APPLE SSD SD256E disk0 : (251 GB)
        S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified
            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB
            Macintosh HD (disk1) /  [Startup]: 249.77 GB (174.31 GB free)
                Core Storage: disk0s2 250.14 GB Online
    USB Information: ℹ️
        Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
        Logitech USB Receiver
        SanDisk Ultra 16.01 GB
            S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified
            NO NAME (disk2s1) /Volumes/NO NAME : 16.01 GB (8.86 GB free)
        Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub
            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
        Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
    Thunderbolt Information: ℹ️
        Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
    Gatekeeper: ℹ️
        Mac App Store and identified developers
    Kernel Extensions: ℹ️
            /Library/Extensions
        [loaded]    com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver (3.9.1 - SDK 10.8) Support
            /System/Library/Extensions
        [loaded]    com.Logitech.Unifying.HID Driver (1.3.0 - SDK 10.6) Support
    Launch Agents: ℹ️
        [not loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist Support
        [running]    com.Logitech.Control Center.Daemon.plist Support
    Launch Daemons: ℹ️
        [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist Support
        [invalid?]    com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist Support
        [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist Support
    User Launch Agents: ℹ️
        [loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist Support
        [invalid?]    com.citrixonline.GoToMeeting.G2MUpdate.plist Support
    User Login Items: ℹ️
        iTunesHelper    Application (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)
    Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️
        AdobeExManDetect: Version: AdobeExManDetect 1.1.0.0 - SDK 10.7 Support
        FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 15.0.0.223 - SDK 10.6 Support
        QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
        Flash Player: Version: 15.0.0.223 - SDK 10.6 Support
        AdobePDFViewer: Version: 10.1.1 Support
        Default Browser: Version: 600 - SDK 10.10
        SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.4.5 - SDK 10.6 Support
        Silverlight: Version: 5.1.30514.0 - SDK 10.6 Support
        JavaAppletPlugin: Version: 15.0.0 - SDK 10.10 Check version
    User Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️
        CitrixOnlineWebDeploymentPlugin: Version: 1.0.105 Support
        WebEx64: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.6 Support
    3rd Party Preference Panes: ℹ️
        Flash Player  Support
        Logitech Control Center  Support
    Time Machine: ℹ️
        Time Machine not configured!
    Top Processes by CPU: ℹ️
             5%    WindowServer
             1%    plugin-container
             1%    fontd
             0%    firefox
             0%    Memory Clean
    Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️
        627 MB    firefox
        258 MB    WindowServer
        180 MB    loginwindow
        155 MB    mds_stores
        120 MB    Dock
    Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️
        2.02 GB    Free RAM
        4.50 GB    Active RAM
        970 MB    Inactive RAM
        1.10 GB    Wired RAM
        1.82 GB    Page-ins
        33 KB    Page-outs

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  • Early 2013 vs. Late 2013 Retina MacBook Pro - which is better? Refurb or New?

    Hi, I'm looking to get myself a new (or refurbished) MacBook Pro Retina.
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    Brand New (Late-2013) - $2450 (after corporate discount):
    CPU 2.3 Ghz (Haswell)
    16GB RAM
    512 GB SSD
    Refurbished (Late-2013) - $2250:
    CPU 2.3 Ghz (Haswell)
    16GB RAM
    512GB SSD
    Refurbished (Early-2013) - $2200:
    CPU 2.7Ghz (Ivy Bridge)
    16GB RAM
    512GB SSD
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    Thanks in advance.

    Comparing Late-2013 15” rMBPs.
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    Message was edited by: hands4

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  • Macbook Pro Retina 13' Early 2013 and 45W Charger

    Hey all,
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  • GTX260-OC High Temps all of a sudden

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  • Macbook Pro 15' Early 2013 SSD Upgrade

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    A Professional Example
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