High volume of batches with Split valuation - impact on system performance

Hi!
I have a client that is intending to load a new material type from their legacy system which will be automatically batch managed with split valuation. So, Valuation category will be 'x' and the valuation type will also be the batch number as automatically created on GR.
The concern of the client is the impact on system performance. Having up to 80,000 batches per material master record (so, 80,000 valuation types will be mainatined with a unique price in the Accounting 1 tab of the MMR) and overall around 1 million batches a year. I'm not aware of any system performance issues around this myself but there seems to be anecdotal evidence that SAP has advised against using this functionality with high volumes of batches.
Could you please let me know of any potential problems I might encounter, having 1 million batches with split valuation may cause? Logically, this would increase to tens of millions of batches over time until archived off via SARA.
Many thanks!
Anthony

I currently have about 1.5 million batches with split valuation in my system (but it is not the X split), and we archive yearly.
having many batches for one material ( lets say 1000) causes dramatic performace issues during automatic batch determination.
it took about 5 minutes until a batch was returned into a delivery. if the user then wants a different batch and has to carry out batch determination again, then he just works for 10 to 15 minutes on one delivery.
This is mainly caused by the storage location segment of the batches. if one batch gets movedd within a plant thru 3 different locations, then the batch has 3 records in table MCHB. But SAP has a report to reorganize the MCHB table that have zero stock.
The X split has more effect, it is not only the batch table that makes issues in this case. With the x-split SAP adds an MBEW record (material master valuation view) for each new batch.
However, if the design is made to get a certain functionality (here valution at batch level), then you have to get a proper hardware in place that can give you the performance that is needed.

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Use one-step procedure for transfer posting to mat. subj. to valuation
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First of all , thanks everyone for the help.
Csaba Szommer, Kunal ingale , i read the OSS note and the pdf and indeed everything confirms it´s not possible to do the two step movement. So , i tried the stock transport order and something else appeared here. When creating this type of order , the system first ask for a Supplying Plant , then you can populate the material , quantity and the destination plant. But then it asks for the Valuation Type of the material involved, and it seems this field is Mandatory . Is it possible to make this field on the transport order as optional ? I couldn´t find this field at SPRO-MM-Purchasing-Purchase Order-Define Screen Layout at Document Level .
I need this field to be optional for the following reason. In my company there´s a relation between two plants , Plant A ( from where products are dispatched to the customer ) and Plant B ( where the material is produced with valuation type "Production" and sometimes is buyed from vendors with valuation type "Purchase" ) . The idea is to run an MRP which will generate the material needs on Plant A considering the Sales Orders. This need will be then transformed (automatically by MRP ) in Stock Transport Orders with Supplying Plant "Plant B" and receiving "Plant A". The problem here is that , at the moment of the transport order creation it´s no possible to know which will be the valuation type of the material that will satisfy the need. I mean , Plant B ( production and buying plant ) will check the list of needs for Plant A and then will decide which material ( with which Valuation Type ) they will provide considering the actual stock levels at the time of the MRP run.
In a few words, i see the only way to do a two step transfer of a split valuated material is using Stock Transport Orders , is there a way to make the field "Valuation Type" optional ?. The idea would be to choose the Valuation Type of the material at the moment of the Good Issue. Thanks a lot , once again.
Edited by: Christian Len on Jul 7, 2008 3:16 PM

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