Highlight/shadow sliders changing back to LR3
I just downloaded LR4 as a trial. Everything seemed to install just fine, but when I open LR4, the new whites highlights shadows blacks sliders instantly turn back to the old LR3 recovery fill light sliders....I see them for about 3 seconds and they change right before my eyes. Why is it doing this?
In develop module... down right corner...!... update to current proces.> update all in filmstrip
Or down right module .... Camera calibration...process.... change to 2012.
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The basic sliders disappeared. Including the Exposure, Contrast, Highlights, Shadows, Whites, Blacks, Clarity and Vibrance Sliders are no longer available. I need help to get them back on the program.
I can't figure out where the sliders went and how to put them back on. Anyone have any suggestions?
ThanksIn Lightroom, go to the Window menu, select Panels, select Basic
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HDR Too much exposure, not enough Highlight, Shadow
For Lightroom generated HDR photos the range of Exposure has been changed to +/-10 from the normal +/-5. I would like to see a LR/HDR where this increased range is necessary. All the increased range does now is make it harder to fine tune the exposure and doesn't seem to provide any useful benefit. What is needed is a little more range (probably +/-125 or 150) in the Highlight and Shadow sliders. The info is there but the only way to get it is to use the local adjustments which should not be necessary. On the Shadows side the HDR does a great job of eliminating the noise so a little more range would be very useful.
>Just curious though, where on the Adobe site would I have found this extremely useful piece of information?
You might start with Photoshop help, which explains those controls and directs you to a
Video Turorial on the Adobe web site.
While the help is well done, ACR is a pretty complex topic, and for a more in depth coverage I would recommend the latest edition of Bruce Fraser's Real World Camera Raw, which Jeff has updated and will be available soon. -
New HIGHLIGHTS/SHADOWS not as useful?
Maybe I'm showing my amateur-ness here, but I'm not getting as good a results w/ the new updated HIGHLIGHTS/SHADOWS brick.
I didn't use the old one much, but I liked the SHADOWS to merely bump up some shots (slightly) and I sometimes used HIGHLIGHTS when RECOVERY didn't get me quite there.
But the new one doesn't seem to give me much of any adjustment unless I'm near 50% on either slider. And then it's fairly drastic. Not the "incrimental" nudges I got used to on the previous versions.
Anyone else noticing this?Yes. I didn't take kindly to the change. There are posts here on how to make the old Brick available (Léonie has made it easy for you) -- I have assigned it to a keyboard shortcut.
That said, the new Brick is more useful than I first thought. Like you, I was used to the _scale_ of the sliders in the old Brick, and shocked to find that what I had internalized as "enough" had become "not visible".
You have to train your mouse-hand with the new Brick's sliders as a totally new Brick, not as a modified version of the old Brick. Now that I am comfortable with the scale (and the variation within the scale, as you point out), the new Brick is nowhere near as useless (and offensive for this) as I first judged it to be.
I still would like to have ready access to the old "Width" sliders, however.
Do us a favor and leave the orchard keepers a note asking for an improved or merged H & S Brick: "Aperture➞Provide Aperture Feedback".
OT: "Amateur" only recently became a term of denigration. The change seems to be part of the corporatization of public life. I am an amateur, as proud of that as of my professional accomplishments.
Message was edited by: Kirby Krieger -- links and OT commentary added. -
Sorting order for Highlights, Shadows, Whites and Blacks controls.
I absolutely love the new set of controls as compared to the similar options in LR3. With just these 6 controls and a few seconds I can get my image looking great. One thing is making me crazy though, the four controls are logically sorted "Whites, Highlights, Shadows, Blacks" in terms of the range that they impact. If the controsl were sorted as I suggested, I would be able to think through the problem of fixing a particular image more efficiently.
Has this been discussed or considered?tomalphin wrote:
I should add, with only four items in question, putting the two you are most likely to use slightly closer together will result in little gained efficiency. Having them sorted in a manner that is easier to teach, learn and internalize will likely lead to better results for a larger percentage of users.
Further, if they were sorted in the manner I suggest, it would be possible to further strengthen the understanding of how the features work by showing a color curve overlay on the histogram. This would make it even easier for folks to understand how these six abstract controls affect the image.
It sounds like there is a mix of rational and reactive pushback to this approach from the vocal audience on this forum. I would be very interested to see how the two compared in blind lab studies with participants of comparable experience. (Including new and existing users... I would like to think that Adobe is saavy enough to realize that it is important to court new users if they want to grow their customer base and profit opportunity.)
If there's one thing we can pull from this whole discussion, it's that there's no way for Adobe to make everyone happy on this issue. There just isn't. Some people absolutely hate that the sliders are ordered as the are in LR4b, others seem to think it makes perfect sense. Both are adamant in their stance. So now it becomes this whole over-blown issue of," What percentage of users like it this way compared to that way." I'm sorry, but I just don't understand why it's such a big deal. Is it that hard to use the controls in the order that Adobe placed them in LR4b. Really? Is it? Is it really that slow for you high-volume photographers out there? Is it really something that you won't completely get used to in all of a few hours of using LR4?
The current sort order of the sliders in LR4b is not necessarily just an order-of-operations that is being thrust upon Lightroom users. The rationale is that the controls follow an order which, in most cases for most photographs, flows from the most global adjustments to the most specific. It's more than just an arbitrary ordering based on "what Adobe says we ought to do first".
The truth is, while I understand Adobe's reasoning here, I really don't care what order the sliders end up in. Why? Because it really doesn't matter all that much, at all. I mean, think about it. Let's say that the current order of the sliders in LR4b makes it to the final version. Are users going to keep using Lightroom 3 in protest? No. Are users going to keep all their photos in PV2010 expressly because they simply can't handle the order of the sliders in PV2012? No. The reason that nobody will go to such lengths is that it's reallly just not that important. This is an exceptionally minor issue of personal preference that has less weight and importance than the hard drive space at Adobe used to store all of the threads that have popped up in complaint of the slider order.
I know that everyone vehemently arguing against the current slider order will whole-heartedly disagree... but I simply had to put in my two-cents. The issue of slider order is so miniscule that I cannot fathom why so much has already been written about it.
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An afterthought...
Really? "Blind lab studies" to scientifically determine what order to put LR4 sliders in? C'mon guys... you've got to be kidding me... -
Aperture 3.3.2 highlight shadows & recovery
Hi all,
I just wanted to hear your opinion about the new highlight and shadows + recovery in aperture 3.3.2.
In my opinion these features were way better in the previous version.
What do you think? Why did apple make such a drastic change?Walter, see this discussions on some solutions to bring the old Highlight-and-shadows-Brick back:
How to not miss that olde-tyme Highlights & Shadows 7-slider Brick
Thanks to Kirby Krieger
Regards
Léonie -
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Where do I find the white or shadow sliders in Adobe Camera Raw 8.71
Where do I find the white or shadow sliders in Adobe Camera Raw 8.71 I just downloaded Photoshop from Creative Cloud as an update to my CS 5, yet these sliders are not there. Thanks!
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New process is much finer than the old, you have to work it for a while but you will like it, when you are used to the new behavior. -
Hello,
Thanks for any help you may have. LR 4.4 worked perfectly on iMac 27' OSX 10.8.5 for 1.5 years until October this year when shut downs began when making adjustments on primarily exposure and shadow sliders. Unit would not restart unless rebooting surge protector(s) after 10-15 minute wait. Apple replaced main board and cleared disc. Back-up and LR 4 reloaded and updated to 4.4.1. New surge protection or direct into receptacle makes no difference and shutdown happens immediately upon slider movement. Any suggestions or self checks an old guy can possibly do? It is Educator/student version.Hello and thanks for the reply.
The entire computer shuts down and will not restart without a reset of the new (and previous) surge protector or if plugged directly to the wall receptacle anywhere from 30 minute to overnight reset before on button restart will work. Other than slider adjustments on LR, it has only shut down one other time when loading photos via USB 3.0 cable to LR. All images from camera are in RAW. Apple tried to replicate this earlier this week with LR but could not read anything other than an increased usage on one of the diagnostic meters when the sliders were moved quickly from side to side.
Other computer functions are normal and rarely used except for e-mail, web search, and 90% LR. Plenty of memory in reserve.
Considering two upgrades (1) LR 5 to get new camera profiles (Pentax K-3)
(2)Yosemite OSX if it would help the LR4.4 or LR5 actually behave
Hope this helps illustrate the dilemma and thanks for your support. -
Highlights, Shadows, Whites, Blacks
So in the Basic panel of the Develop module, there are sliders for:
Highlights
Shadows
Whites
Blacks
Is it just me or from a workflow perspective, wouldn't it make more sense to have them listed as:
Whites
Highlights
Shadows
Blacks
While playing with the beta, I found myself working with highlights and whites together or working with blacks and shadows together. The jumping around in that panel meant I had to pay way more attention to it than necessary which was distracting.
Anyone else or am I just too uptight?!Despite the fact that I see the "top down" approach, I would still rather sacrifice that a little bit and instead having the sliders in the photographic order.
Top down is only valid for the first run. After that, I usually find myself adjust here and there a little bit. And that usually take quite a bit more time than the first run.
So when sanitizing the shadows/blacks for instance, the jumping seems tedious. -
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Hello mlazaretti. Vacation time is awesome. (Especially a road trip!) Since you will be going out for two weeks, you never know if having extra data may come in handy. I highly recommend switching to the next tier up so this way you have more data. This way it is only $10.00 more versus $15.00, and you dont have to worry about overages. Then change back at the start of the next billing cycle.
If you need help making this change let us know! Have a safe trip!
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If you are using Safari as a web browser :-
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