Hinting problems with Helvetica Neue

I seem to remember I asked this before and the problem was font hinting, but it continues to plague me and I'm wondering if anyone has any kind of workaround.
Helvetica Neue bold doesn't render properly in PS (or Illustrator) so that the x-height is getting miscalculated for some letters.
See attached image for sample:
Above you can see where the 'v' is shorter than it should be (and the 'u' too). It drives me nuts - I like to use Helvetica Neue a lot and it looks terrible.
Create outlines cures it, but I need to keep text editable as I design, so that's not a good solution.
I'm using CS5 on 10.6.5

I have just the same problem. I'm using Leopard 10.5.8. This occurs to me on InDesign CS4, not sure about Photoshop or Illustrator. When I zoom in close to the text it seems that this hinting disappears.
It is quite irritating and its difficult to make designs on screen when the letters looks so odd.
Im quite sure that this is only a screen problem and it will be shown properly on print.
Do someone have an answer to what may cause this? And if there is some way to solve it?

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