Hiss and Gain on Apogee Duet

I have an Apogee Duet and was testing it out with Shure SM-58 and SM-81 mics. I have noticed that I can only turn the input gain up about 30% before I get some hiss in the headphones. Is this pretty much to be expected with these particular mics, or should be able to get more clean gain?
My Duet is new and I guess I'm not quite sure what to expect. I'm trying to determine whether my unit is functioning properly and is up to spec.
I would really appreciate any help. If you happen to have a Duet and SM58 and are willing to try it out, that would be a huge help for me. Thanks!

Hi,
there was another case with this problem - most probably yur duet is one of those with broken preamps. I strongly advise you go to you local "weapons" dealer and have a "shootout"
Fox

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