Hoiw to separate a RAW + JPEG file in Aperture?

Using a Nikon D90 I shoot with RAW + JPEG but cannot separate the two files in Aperture. How do I do it?

Hello and welcome to the Discussions.
The Preview that Aperture shows you originates from the RAW master and any edits you have done. To see a version from the JPEG master, Control-click on the current Preview and choose New Version from JPEG master.
Ernie

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I think I already commented on that in an earlier post.
ACR until quite recently had a very bad habit of bad colors by default... why would I want to create a .jpg from that ugly RAW using LR when they whole purpose of having the .jpg was to have some reference of 'reasonably close to what I'm after.' Or perhaps you needed some quick prints, and don't feel like messing with tweaking colors in RAW at the moment... and camera generated .jpg is 'good enough' with just some simple minor adjustments.
The new profiles are a huge improvement, but at times I still shoot both... just to check up that its still doing what I expect of it. And most of all, I want to use LR to manage ALL my images. Stacks are a handy way to hide the clutter if that's what you want to call it... their functionality just isn't what you'd expect to be there.
Others may have their own reason for wanting to use both. But again... I'm not arrogant enough to presume that everyone should be doing things just as I do, that's the beauty of options - it makes the program more powerful for a wider userbase. If options like this are more difficult to implement than the GND or adjustment brushes... then perhaps some poor initial decisions were made in how they based LR in the first place.
Besides... it wouldn't be as much of a 'hassle' if the proper tools were in LR in the first place. ;)
Plus, aren't there ways to filter so you only see RAW if that's what you are after? I honestly don't know, because I personally don't see the 'duplicate' files as a hassle - though their management could be eased... which I think was the intent of all the suggestions.

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